SoD Paladins & Windfurry & Seals

For educational purposes, have you played around with Seal of Righteousness at all? This is the only Vanilla Seal that I’m aware of to actually proc on-hit effects like Fiery Weapon etc.

I know it’s not the flashiest option, but it would be interesting to know if Wild Strikes does proc off of SoR hits, and if each of these strikes can proc on-hit effects.

you’ve proven yourself to be the least knowledgeable person in chat. Not only that, you stood on your false information while attempting to discredit others. You’re internet trash.

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Who cares?

I have,

Yes I have tested it, SoR was always a spell hit and never proc’d anything, and that continue to be the case here. The “Vanilla Twist” was weaving SoC into SoR. When SoC would proc, you’d get two SoR hits. However, this demanded WAY too much mana and was never a dps gain except for ~10 seconds pvp fights.

Twisting didn’t become popular until TBC when you could use r1 SoC and SoM (martyr). Which many people were excited for in SOD since we now have martyr, but as of now the seals cannot proc each other, as their procs are not considered melee strikes. I’m actually pretty sure this is an error and blizzard intended us to be able to twist.

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Wasn’t this the era of Seal of Blood, and the entire reason all TBC realms are horde dominated?

I’m not sure that it’s true that SoR never proc’d anything. There’s a small section on the classic era tanking guide on Wowhead that discusses how it effectively doubles your proc chance for Chance on Hit enchantments.

However, notably in that guide shows that temporary imbuements like Shadow Oil and Frost Oil are not affected, thus most likely Wild Strikes being an imbuement won’t proc from the yellow hits either.

It does make me wonder how well SoR could potentially perform with Wild Strikes and a good chance on hit weapon. You’d still swap to Martyr to replenish mana, but maybe the play pattern is burn/replenish cycles?

I’m only speculating, I don’t have a pally to test with yet.

Yeah, back in OG tbc alliance had seal of … vengeance I think it was called (either that or truth)? It applied the stacking DOT that we’re familiar with in wotlk ret. Horde had seal of blood which was vastly superior. In classic TBC they fixed this by giving both factions both spells.

Basically it went like this. SoR was a spell hit, for sure. It can proc any effects that can proc off a spell. It is not a melee strike and will not proc any weapon oils or similar effects. Wowhead has become notoriously unreliable, I’m pretty sure if you go check their ret guide for SoD it still says crusader strike can proc windfury and tells players to play around that fact.

If you played on SoD launch weekend and tried to use the wowhead guides for runes you likely would have noticed how quick they were to post blatantly false information. Not even sure where they get their information these days tbh.

Oh, so tbc classic was a “fun server” by changing things. Sorry, I played vanilla tbc and tbc private servers, but not classic. Didn’t know.

Dude

Why are you in the classic forum then?

This is SoD sir.

World of Warcraft Classic: Season of Discovery

So…i have no clue what I’m reading here but for the record.

  1. Yes Crusader Strike doesn’t maintain judgments or proc, it’s more a rotational filler + mana sustain then anything else.
  1. You do benefit from Windfury Weapon Wild Strikes with auto-attacks + seals

  2. If you want to Seal Twist, you can do it with Martyrdom + Righteousness but not with Command.

  3. If you have it, it tends to be better to just use Divine Storm.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

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It’s a melee strike that should proc things just like any other melee strike.

Yup I stated that.

This isn’t viable.

It’s substantially better dps to use divine storm, only because the seals are not proccing as they should.

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Did anyone test if the mana restore counts as a proc and is overriding everything? Also it shouldn’t restore mana if you want it stronger.

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You’re still here…?

You’re still begging for buffs?

God these forums are useless. Save the world some trouble and don’t reproduce. I’m out.

I’ve also noticed how poorly WoWhead has done with SoD and have seen issues with a few classes that others have pointed out.

Do you know where I should go for proper guide information like that?

I never said it was, I just said it’s an option if you want to do it, and while I didn’t word it as strongly as you did I did state it was better to just use Divine Storm.

Would probably be pretty OP to have WF proccing off of spell damage.

Let Warriors have something unique about their class.