Social Credit System Might Be Coming

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I’m going to downvote everyone just because

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Worst…idea…ever…

Blizz will love it.

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NO! I don’t want a social credit score AT ALL. I was simply trying to converse with OP about how to make one work and not work if we had one implemented. It would break the game.

Good grief, read the whole conversation.

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I see your vision. You want a land where people get judged fairly for the junk they do. But sadly we can not function in this world. We came from the world of the Salem witch trial, Where one moody girl who craved attention used the system to kill a bunch of innocent people.

let say you had a falling out with your guild because the leader was being a jerk. In some cases the leader will ask a whole bunch of guildie’s to downvote you and shut you out. They will give their guild a sob story and half of them may not even know you but will downvote you anyways to make the GM happy. Now how is that fair for the 1 guy targeted.

When you have a system where you can do downvote you need to put in protection vs people who enjoy starting lich mobs. That’s hard to do.

My own personal system that I would like to see is simple. Once a hour you can give any person you like a RNG Blessing that will grant them a small chance at loot/better loot for 1 hour. (stackable effect with a limit of 5) (this will also give a guild the chance to get their best players more loot)

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I would be content to have robust social tools that allow me to find players who share my way of playing.

Imagine a guild finder that actually helped you find exactly the right fit for you because both the guild and you personally had to fill out detailed questions. Think of it as a sort of gamer online dating app within the game only without long walks on the beach and details about weekly guild activities instead.

Add in the ability to have affiliations with other guilds. Perhaps levels of affiliation so that we could maintain family guilds but be part of larger guilds.

One last thing: Create a system that rewards social play of any level. If all you do is run old content for transmogs with your two cousins in a three person guild? Cool, you will have goals to work toward that reward the guild. These rewards NEED to be better than freaking Azerite crumbs, lol: Let players work toward something cool together in groups of two to fifty!

If these were built into the game, reputation would matter again because you would not be able to group with decent people to achieve rewards. Creeps would have no choice but to play with other creeps…and let them get a taste of their own medicine.

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Far be it for me to correct you, but everything about what you posted was pro-social score. There is no misinterpretation about that.

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no way this couldn’t be abused :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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The main issue I see is the rating system needs to account for 2 things…

  1. personal interaction - main problem is everyone is different. Friendly players may get bad marks from folks who just want to put their head down and get thru the run (and vice versa)… People who talk trash may rate each other high, but get bad votes from people who don’t share that dynamic. people who want to speed run normals may downvote new or slower players, just because they are not playing the same way…

  2. skill - without separating a perceived skill level out, the “community” rating will become used as skill rating.

Then there will be trolls who just mark everyone bad.

If they implement it - it has to be more nuanced than “rate 1-10” otherwise no one will know what the rating is based on. Maybe with broader categories?

The problem with making it more complex is getting the people to put the time in to respond.

Will be interesting to see how they implement it and how the community actually uses/handles it though…

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Then I represented my view badly. OP wrote a whole big thing about social score, and I understood his point right up to the part where he started talking about using it to punish people.

I don’t WANT a social score. I don’t think we NEED a social score. But if they put one in, which has been brushed against by Q&A before, they can’t put rewards and punishments on it.

That’s what I was trying to say.

I thought I was pretty clear there, but I grant you that my conversation with OP could have been taken as support. I was just trying to realistically war-game how to make it not break the game if they put it in…because in the Q&A, Ion talked about putting one in.

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They would never make a way to give negative points to a person. This would be abused to no end. Discords would be created and used to spread the names of players someone doesn’t like asking everyone to give them negative points.

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They won’t even give us a downvote button on the forums. Why do you think they would give us this?

This is one of those things that sound good on paper (and I agree, it sounds good - on paper), but too many people would abuse it both positively and negatively.

Look at virtually every single forum, social media site, e-commerce site, etc. - anything with a rating system or +/-1 system. People abuse it every single time, both positively and negatively.

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Im all for it in theory.
Problem with theories is when you add in a human factor they blow up in your face.
We have a LOT of petulant, mean spirited players in this game. do you really want to turn them loose with your reputation?

They come into this forum, dont like something you say so gather up 100 of their guild buddies to mass report your posts and since moderation here is off eating donuts mostly, YOU end up suspended for a day till they can come off their coffee break and let you out over a bogus rap.

NO…i dont want MY game reputation left to the whims of infantile 12 year olds.

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Posting in a Skinwalker thread. :mushroom:

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Lol, I personally know people that are not toxic but would try to get the black heart as a badge of honor!

“Badges, badges? We don’t need no stinking badges”- Blazing Saddles

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How about a computerized system that gives negative karma for things like ganking and griefing.

Making it a player controlled popularity contest would just make thing more toxic.

I say keep it almost exclusively computer controlled to avoid abuse. Also keep it as simple as possible!

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No. In the state of the world right now, the last thing we need is anything related to the word social. What if I wanted to log in my 100 alts and down vote you to oblivion? Abuse would be rampant. People can’t be nice on a public Twitter. They are a million times worse when they are anonymous.

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Terrible idea hope blizzard never adds anything like that.

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100%

I have no idea what the best solution is but nothing is clearer than the fact that social consequences don’t work online like they do in the real world, and as a result online environments are cesspools.

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Considering people feel personally attacked when they aren’t picked for groups I’m not sure how well this would be used. In theory it sounds great… but like any good idea the human factor always messes it up.

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This would be an account based rating, not for individual characters.