Social contract. Really?

[Nora-misha]

Congratulations you weren’t the target audience for the social contract, a reminder of what has always been in the ToS. Others needed it, so they put it out for everyone.

[Qamaits-darrowmere (Qamaits)]

@Ipsker-andorhal

Keep your politics away from me

I’m not sure that being politely asked to play nice is a political statement.

[Dreamhaven-emerald-dream]

@Rita-velen

It sounds like this social contract will not affect you, so just keep doing what you’re doing and you should be fine.

yes citizen, you have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide indeed

[Janelly-llane]

Methinks thou dost protest too much.

[Shadybolt-thrall]

@Qamaits-darrowmere

@Ipsker-andorhal

Keep your politics away from me

I’m not sure that being politely asked to play nice is a political statement.

For some, the simple request of “Don’t be a jackass” is a political statement, its kinda the platform of an extremist movement that is keen to reside on 4chan (no, not kidding) so… I mean, for some, being nice to others is a political statement

[Juwul-wyrmrest-accord]

@Shadybolt-thrall

For some, the simple request of “Don’t be a jackass”

because approaching someone out of nowhere and saying “Don’t be a jac—” is totally acceptable. Reported for offensive language since you applaud this new system so much btw. Gotta hold you to your high standards!

[Nátorián-thrall]

@Helsylvan-wyrmrest-accord

it continues to baffle me that people don’t have the faintest idea for what hate speech even is.

I am not legally bound to be a part of your delusion.

It makes no differance to me how right you think you are, I will never bow down to your sick and disgusting ideology.

[Rideout-area-52]

@Ipsker-andorhal

Never in my wildest of dreams would I EVER, EVER! Attack someone because of their lifestyle or choices OR use words that people or even myself would consider hateful; And now suddenly I’m asked to agree to a second terms of use policy with vague words like “Hate Speech”? I could literally care less what people do on their free time, at home or with whomever or whoever many people they choose. And now in my game, I’m being told I need to be extra careful to not do or say something that may or may not offend someone? Why? Was there not already a ToS? If someone can tank, heal, or dps my dungeon/bg etc. I will never say a word. In fact I prefer not to. This to me is so sketchy, just another reason to get obtuse with rules that already have no clear line. It wasn’t needed and now just makes me second guess a game I was already on the fence about. No i don’t want a refund because my values now conflict with blizzards. In fact i was done with all this literal years ago. Unnecessary and sad. This should have been something the employees are asked. Dont care, haven’t cared don’t ask me a second time to sign and agree to something we ALL agreed wasn’t cool from the get go. There’s an angle and I don’t like it and won’t have any part of it. So much for the new expansion, was actually very excited. Keep your politics away from me, just wanted to play a game and not worry about all the crap in the world. But no.

I agree with Op 100%. This sounds to me like a slippery slope. Its like “oh we just wanna ban semi-autos”

[Sforza-khazgoroth]

I think it’s great you would never ever attack someone based on their social life/values/race etc etc.

You need to realise though however, unfortunately there are people out there who do. This is to protect us against said people.

[Rideout-area-52]

Anytime words like “protect us” are used it always gets abused. Just look at any Communist country on Earth. Heck just look at Youtube before it was owned by Google versus now where all you have are cat videos because everything else is banned.

@Sforza-khazgoroth

I think it’s great you would never ever attack someone based on their social life/values/race etc etc.

You need to realise though however, unfortunately there are people out there who do. This is to protect us against said people.

[Sasarai-blades-edge]

To be fair, Anything other than cat videos are stupid

[Zandrae-wyrmrest-accord (Zandrae)]

@Ipsker-andorhal

lifestyle or choices

This. This right here, depending on what you’re talking about can be an anti-LGBT+ dogwhistle.

@Ipsker-andorhal

Never in my wildest of dreams would I EVER, EVER! Attack someone because of their lifestyle or choices OR use words that people or even myself would consider hateful

Calling being homosexual or transgender a “lifestyle,” or “choice,” is pushing harmful misinformation used by anti-LGBT activists to try and deny and strip LGBT+ people of basic rights. It’s literally an attack and hate just subtle in delivery.

@Ipsker-andorhal

And now suddenly I’m asked to agree to a second terms of use policy with vague words like “Hate Speech”?

I mean, you can choose not to play.

@Ipsker-andorhal

I could literally care less

That means you do care at least a little.

@Ipsker-andorhal

I could literally care less what people do on their free time, at home or with whomever or whoever many people they choose.

This verifies that the “lifestyle and choices” part earlier was in the LGBT+ context.

@Ipsker-andorhal

And now in my game, I’m being told I need to be extra careful to not do or say something that may or may not offend someone? Why? Was there not already a ToS?

The social contract was basically a warning to people that the the terms of service exist and that they’re going to be enforced.

@Ipsker-andorhal

This to me is so sketchy, just another reason to get obtuse with rules that already have no clear line.

Tell me you’ve never been a moderator of anything without telling me you’ve never been a moderator.

You will always have users that will obey the letter of the law, not the spirit. You’ll always have people who find subtle ways to get around the rules and attack people. For example, talking about, “lifestyle and choices” in the context of LGBT+.

There’s always going to be lexical changes.

Being more vague and sweeping with rules, it allows them to cover the lexical changes and people trying to obey the spirit of the rules and not just the letter.

@Ipsker-andorhal

So much for the new expansion, was actually very excited.

So you’re leaving then?

@Ipsker-andorhal

Keep your politics away from me, just wanted to play a game and not worry about all the crap in the world. But no.

My being a transgender man is not political. At all.

I’m here. I’m queer. I kill bosses and loot gear.

[Helsylvan-wyrmrest-accord]

@Nátorián-thrall

It makes no differance to me how right you think you are, I will never bow down to your sick and disgusting ideology.

im sorry you feel that way

[Astealoth-area-52]

Edit some line breaks into your OP. It helps readability a lot.

As far as being mad about the social contract, it is just rephrasing the chat rules to be readable by more people. The mod bot is relatively lenient, maybe a bit less strict even than the old human mods. It just isn’t worth your worry.

Another problem with being mad about the social contract, is it is essentially the same policy they have always used internally. In the more detailed legal documents you signed to play, it boils down to Blizzard can kick you off the server or mute you for whatever reason they please. The social contract is more about transparency than changing anything.