It being weaker is precisely why the long CD is a bore. I am thankful you can remove it to its original state on the Dragon Isles (1min), but it shouldn’t be there at all.
I hope you’re having a good time in DF!
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You too 
Evoker is pretty awesome!
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Dracthyr have normal flying animations. They don’t use the air swim other races do. You can see it in Throne of the Four Winds if you go kill the last boss. Other people air swim while Dracthyr fly.
As for Soar… yeh, it sucks. At it’s fully upgraded level, it is still worse than the base drake. I am going around the Dragon Isles and just deciding not to use it because what is the point if I am just gonna have to stop and get on the drake anyway?
And that makes me sad because I would really, really rather just use my own wings. 
To be clear, I love dragonriding. I think it’s amazing and some of the most fun I have had in this game. I just hate Soar.
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No actually it was 600%.
Right. Cause nothing we have seen about dracthyr so far, including how they marketed dracthyr as being a able to fly, and the cinematic with the dracthyr flying alonside peoples dragonriding mounts, and the new glyph updates, isn’t an indiction of that. Like I said, the new glyphs apparently brings soar more in line with dragonriding mounts. Just, not in old world.
But yeah, thanks for sharing that riveting tichondrius opinion.
Quite refreshing. But I think I’ll pass.
Have you tried reading lately? My post is about soar in old world content. Again, thanks a bundle for your effort, tichon. Not sure what I’d do without your contributions.
That intention seems to be in flux. Worst of all, though, is your intention. What exactly are you trying to do here lol? Public forum, ok. Everyone gets a say. But that includes everyone else too. Quit trying to lay down the law for everyone here lmfao, itself derailing this thread far from the original point. Thanks, Tichon.
Yeah right? Gettin there myself… kind of feelin like a big drag rn rather than a dragon*. Feel like I got excited for this race for nothing tbh. I feel like if I were to compare what my druid can do both off and in the dragon isles, and what my dracthyr can do with soar both off and on the isles, my druid seems like an all round more stable class with less downtime and therefore being able to get around quicker.
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This is debatable. All the talent tree does is lower the cooldown to 2 min (1 min with Familiar Skies), and make it go as fast as the drakes. You’re still stuck with 1 Ascent and 2 Surges. It means it’s still pretty useless as you generally use Ascent a lot. A skill that only has one is not gonna get very far for being able to get around. You could dragonride up somewhere high and use it to get farther, but the fact that you had to use a drake just to make it useful kinda highlights my problems with it.
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Better than nothing which seems like what it is in old world content, but yeah I agree. I am just saying that, as far as intentions go from blizz, they seem to be in flux. Not like I’d actually get some kind of full recompense for this frustration. Feel like its less of a disappointment to simply play a different class at this point.
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Sad thing is that it almost isn’t better than nothing. It makes it okay for little hops or if you want to use a drake to get up to starting high point, but it still isn’t helpful for getting around. You often have to gain more height than Soar will ever allow just trying to get around the zones. It ends up as a button you never push because what is the point if you will just have to stop halfway and get on your drake anyway.
It isn’t even as good for fun flying unless you are in an area with updrafts, because after you have used dragonriding proper and you see how easy it is to be able to dive and climb back up with them, a forced downward glide with Soar just kinda feels sad.
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Quite the hypocrite, though if you’re unable to understand the very simple concept that a racial is clearly not intended to be a replacement for regular mounts or Dragonriding, I guess that’s on you.
Good luck on getting a permanent flight form, though you seem to be expecting change on a whim.
Entitlement much?
They should just reward dracthyr with an ability to be their own flying mount when they unlock flying for everyone. Like druid flight form. But with a cast time like regular flying mounts, idc. Just wanna fly without a mount tbh.
Lol, ok collin robinson. Posting on public forums must be like gettin the caloric intake of a cheeseburger for you. Sounds good 
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At least you have fantastic taste in TV 
I am all for Dracthyr getting flight form or cosmetic mount, but if I could only pick one I would pick a cosmetic dragonriding mount. Normal flying just feels kinda awful after dragonriding.
Ideally I would say cosmetics of both, and let people choose.
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I hate to be that b-word but you’re not as intelligent as you think you are.
Dracthyr should be given a separate “running wild” skill that functions as a bog standard flying mount completely separate from Soar, usable only in legacy non-DF areas until standard flying is unlocked in DF zones.
That is what the person you’re responding to is talking about, Genius.
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Well, it really comes off like they’re talking about Soar in their first post.
Maybe you should check the actual thread you’re posting on.
Nah, you’re far from genius.
Congratulations. You did it again; your “genius” is showing.
You. Were. Responding. To. This. Person:
That one. Right there. Try to keep up with the very same, inane things that you post.
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Without even considering the nuance of the conversation where the OP complains about Soar specifically.
I’m specifically talking on the subject the OP has started with, which can’t be compared with Worgan’s Running Wild.
I get it, you’re chucking a hissy about not getting your way where the developers have made it clear that Soar is not intended to be a replacement for Dragonriding or a mount.
The “buffs” to Soar were a clear indication that there was very little room to move in the direction of giving full access.
Wow that’s a lot of heavy lifting in that thought. All of both the mechanics and animations are in game for dracthryr to be their own old world flying/dragonriding mount. All they would need to do is add the spell to our list, the heavy code work is already done. Call it ‘Take Flight’ or some such and soar can still work as a supplement to our flight as it does now without the need to change it at all.
The responses have been this way because a lot of the people who are complaining about Soar want to just fly like normal with the wings on our back like all dracthyr do in animation and npc action. A winged dragon using another winged dragon to fly looks dumb and fees like they’re just lazy.
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Yup, a dragon riding a dragon does indeed look dumb.
Let’s say they replace Soar with standard flight form. Means you can’t use it in an expansion where it’s the feature until standard flight is open.
That’d suck.
What happens when Dragonriding mechanics become the norm in both open world old content and the new, though you’ve traded Soar for old world flying.
Sometimes it pays to sit back and see where things are going.
Know that Dragonriding is coming to all zones eventually. Why ask for flight you can’t use on Dragon Isles, and will be outdated in maybe a couple of years.
I don’t see the developers considering this.
This is what happens when you try to give a playable “dragon” to the players, especially if it has permanent wings and you stipulate by lore that they can fly, the players will want to fly, and it’s correct that they want to because everything around the race stipulates that It should be possible, unlike the DH in which only Illidan has been able to fly. Therefore the request and criticism are legitimate and the problem is not in the player, it is in the development of the race, that is the Devs.
“Take this amazing race that is based on dragons, has fire breath and can fly” only it can’t really fly because “balance”. It is nonsense and rubs the false advertising, “you can do this! but not really”
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It hasnt been nerfed again. Its been like that for months now.
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Where is the power ? you cant use it in combat, and other players have access to dragonriding which works much better. On azeroth ? where is the power boost if there are portals everywhere ?
Its just a fun gimmick
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