What does “you think you do but you dont” have to do with Blizz changing game systems like RDF and setting the community on fire?
You make more apologies and excuses for them and their communication than they do for themselves. That should make you think that maybe youre off.
What a outlandish claim.
You make such reaches about me with no basis. Use that tiny brain to read what I typed.
A company will always promote a woman when they’re accused of sexism. It’s fact
This very community wanted the “social and old fashioned atmosphere” of the old world, any comment of a RDF feature set these forums on fire.
Now they’re shocked they have a classic team that…agrees with them?
You think you do but you dont was a quote about players wanting servers in the state of old expansions and the original WoW, not flavor of the month changes that some players want to see because theyre coping that classic plus never became a thing and now they want to push those aspirations onto wrath.
Holy run on sentence. You are confused and conflating all kinds of ideas together to throw anything at the wall and see what sticks.
Its ok to worship Blizzard mindlessly, but your arguments for us to do the same arent very compelling.
Yeah, when a polling company does a survey, why do they only ask 2,000 people and not 200 million people? I feel like me voice isn’t heard.
Derp. Derp.
Whoever they think they can milk the most money out of in the shortest time.
So it goes back to she quit because of a culture of sexism.
Yes, in a way yes.
She was the distraction promotion, insulting at its very core.
Blizzard? Sexist??? Whereever may you have gotten that idea?
Was it from the world wide news coverage about it? Or the firing of J Allen Brack? Or the released death threats that Kotick made? Or the poor worker they sexually bullied into suicide?
Or was it that painting they replaced with a painting of fruit?
It was just amazing that they were even sexist about trying to appear non sexist.
Some people would argue that the Sun doesnt exist if they had the time.
Well, look at all the paintings changes to fruit.
Now look at the wsg and ab maps. I see boobs
You can’t use king in a name but you can put queen
It’s a company run by morons who can’t decide go left or go right instead of finding balance in both
They took away jainas boobs and sylvanas boobs but we have male succubi in bondage outfits added
It’s arrogance.
I’ve seen it time and again, some devs really think they know what you want better than you do. It’d be funny if it wasn’t so sad…
I think the list of reasons is vast and much longer than yours.
But the point about it being an unhealthy game and dying, as it relates to classic, is different. They have a chance to fork here and make better choices to prevent this branch from dying. If they continue to avoid introducing features that destroyed retail, wow classic could lift up their subscriptions. That would be a great thing! Classic might get more resources assigned.
They seem to be making wiser choices this time around so far. There’s hope!
Sometimes that could be restated as:
any comment [delete] set these forums on fire
The news polls their viewers all the time. Their viewers are a biased collection leading to the polls swinging towards their bias. The most vocal people in these forums (100’s or 1000’s even) don’t necessarily represent the people who never communicate in the forums. 10’s of thousands play the games. These forums don’t have that kind of volume. Asking the most vocal people their opinions would heavily slant the outcome. Especially since it’s usually the minority faction in a forum (the ones being slighted).
My point is polls can easily misrepresent information regardless of the outcome. Blizzard probably uses the polls as a signal but a simple majority isn’t enough to make a decision.
They are a business so this would be logical.
They really should only make decisions using data driven metrics that directly tie to $$$. It shouldn’t matter what their users ‘feel’ or what the developer ‘feels’.
I think its completely fine for game devs to make decisions without consulting their gamers. But not when it comes to making changes “in the name of the community”.
And also not when those changes don’t address the underlying feedback and issues that the community has, and instead makes those issues worse.
Thats where Blizzard gets it wrong. All too often, their solution for a headache is a punch in the gut.
Classic will die no matter how it’s delivered. A lot of people played wrath with the RDF already in play and that’s what they want.
Nothing the devs do will make wrath last even 1 day longer than it’s gonna last.
Love that you try to remove the most important bit of that singular sentence you quoted.
Monetizing by going for the short-term fast cash, future of the game be damned, is absolutely not the only way to monetize a game. The entire existence of the games industry prior to the infestation of corporate America remains proof of that.
Also, gotta give special attention to this gem. If you think anything from retail outside of the X.3 patches is Blizzard “listening to the community” … I mean delusional is the only word to describe that.
I think a more underlying truth is that Wrath is a 15 year old game. Many will enjoy retreading the footsteps of their childhoods, but wont stay indefinitely for the nostalgia.
WoW is an old game. Even retail is just lipstick on an old geriatric pig. Many gamers look onwards to the future for new videogame experiences, even if they might pause for a couple weeks/months to admire the best MMO expansion ever made.
Maybe Ill eat my words on this, but neither WoW Classic or WoW Retail will ever reclaim the esteemed position it had in 2008, even if the devs do everything right.
The issue with this line of thinking is that they don’t seem to really want to invest the resources into making really meaningful changes. As we get into the later expansions, the amount of stuff they’ll need to change will just increase.
IMO, they would have been better off releasing at least the “Classic Trilogy” more or less no changes, noting feedback and player behavior from those, then going back to Vanilla to do Classic+.
You may be right but I’ll never understand why blizz would change anything with their MVP expansion.
By drawing a line in the sand, they are splitting the player base and players who would normally play wow exclusively, will end up leaving early.
Why not cater to everyone by releasing the content as it was originally released?