Bro come on, actually read the things that I am posting.
I literally said directly beneath the old build that I also simmed with the new builds and there is still a significant DPS loss.
Let me repeat that - When I sim with the new tier set using the new talent builds I still do less DPS than 10.1.7
What are you talking about AoE spec? I simmed in Single Target using Single Target specs. Do words just mean different things to you?
Simming new builds in old gear still isn’t meaningful.
And like others have told you. You’re doing something wrong.
The sim sheet shows going from 4 piece Aberus to 4 piece amirdrasil is over an 8% gain.
Do you not understand that MM is primarily a burst aoe spec? It’s ST is never going to be stronger than say BM which is a primarily ST spec.
Which means it’s strengths are in aoe not ST.
new tier bonus with rf dmg buff and rf double tap baked in just is going to be a ST buff.
OK Im going to break this down AGAIN as simply as humanly possible because despite the fact I already explained it using very simple sentences apparently I need to go full crayon and painstaking detail:
Now that we have that out of the way, I want you to remember the above with every single further thing I reply with because literally everything is with that context and understanding applied to it.
Now I am going to step through what I did in excruciating detail so you cant possibly not understand my post:
Now lets see what happens when I replace old tier with new tier - On raidbots gear compare I swapped each of the 4 OLD tier pieces with the NEW tier pieces keeping their ilvl, enchants, etc identical so the ONLY change was the set bonus and maybe some slight allocation of stats but my stat weights are all within 0.1 of each other so that wont matter more than 100DPS variance tops:
So to summarise:
If you still think I “did something wrong” Id love to hear exactly what.
You didnt look at the tier bonus because changing the tier ALONE is an 8.3% increase over Aberus 4p
TLDR
I dont know how you messed it up but im going to trust sims from the top players over your sims.
OK this just shows you either didnt read a single thing I posted or are just an absolute peak troll or utterly and thoroughly illiterate because I literally compared before and after with both set bonuses.
I AM AWARE THE SET BONUS IS ~8% BETTER
I LITERALLY AGREED WITH THAT AND ALSO PROVED THAT AS TRUE IN MY OWN NUMBERS
I mean come on, it literally couldnt be broken down in any finer detail unless I start defining every word in advance.
These arent “my sims” these are the hard maths from raidbots. You can literally just do it yourself.
If you dont believe my sims then you think raidbots is completely incorrect and wrong.
Edit: OK the ONLY thing that spreadsheet is comparing is the set bonuses.
Yes, the new set bonuses are better, at no point did I disagree with that, suggest that wasnt the case or in any way shape or form say the new set bonuses were a nerf.
In fact I LITERALLY proved the exact thing that spreadsheet is showing - that the new set bonuses are a significant buff over the old ones.
What I am talking about is the nerf to OVERALL DPS from the change to Wind Arrows/Trueshot procs.
its clear you fundamentally dont even understand my post at all which is mind blowing but holy crap.
so Abberus just didn’t happen or what?
Also lmao https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/snozo#
One tier is an exception
Mocking one prog kill and a trial reclear while on an alt is super classy.
I also wasn’t aware the majority of players were 8/9 mythic 
What about all the times in previous expansions or are those all exceptions too?
Trying to flex that you are the ‘high end of wow’ without even getting CE and getting grey logs is pretty cringe so yes I am mocking.
I wasn’t flexing. I was stating an actual fact. The majority of WoW players don’t see 5/9 mythic let alone 8/9 or CE so even just being there puts me in the higher playerbase.
The fact that you don’t actually understand how parsing works is pretty clear when you tried to mock someone that’s slightly undergeared on a prog kill. Just shows you have zero clue what you’re talking about.
PS I was pure ST for echo due to guild wanting prio damage on boss.
Keep hiding on that alt though.
Sims aren’t a good measuring stick right now. They are rough at best. MM tested pretty well after the tier change. It could use a little nudge up but is going to be more than serviceable. Especially with the content you do.
You didn’t get nerfed. MM is fine. You’ll be fine. All hunter specs are looking pretty okay for 10.2.
If you’d like to trash another players logs you should do it from your main.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Yet I have multiple CE’s and you don’t x
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/snozo#metric=bossdps damn my bad your boss damage logs really showed me.
Easy to say when hiding on an alt 
Even then, I never claimed to be good, just that I play up there 
Someones super tilted <3
PS my boss damage by Ilvl at 442 was a 64.
I wouldn’t call myself high end if I can’t even kill the last boss on mythic but I guess we have different definitions 
Took me 2 seconds to look up lol and I think based on your replies u seem a bit mad.
ps only 26 parses in that bracket xD
This isn’t true at all idk where you are getting this from.
This is also completely false the change to WRG was a massive nerf.
I wouldnt call myself high end hiding on an alt either.
Nah not mad at all. I dont get upset over someone hiding on an alt looking at logs outside of context when I never even claimed to be good.
a blue is a blue.
Granted tier lists should be taken with a grain of salt but Azortharion says its B tier
You sound tilted <3
What does a max tier list have to do with me talking about sims?
Not even close. Actually in a solid mood.
Not like sims have a factor in where they place specs at. I trust the top players over a 61 alt any day.