So.. when does shadow get to be competitve?

Damn bro, youre really upset about this huh?
You 100% were deflecting. Youre resorting to toxicity and aggression to “win” your “argument.” But you’re losing said argument and look like a complete fool in the process.
The hypocrisy in your comments is adorable.

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You just described yourself. The lack of self awareness is astounding.

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whats funny is in length you have been complaining in this thread spreists are now clearing 30s but dont worry guys spriest is a horrible spec that isnt viable

ps you know what one of the biggest reasons why spriest isnt often taken? its because disc is meta

I could very well grasp it wasn’t fully relevant to people doing 20s, however it’s the principles being applied that matter here not necessarily the results. While it took him a little to fully overtake in that pull, he was “Competitive” as you say within a few seconds. The DH he’s playing with is also a damn sight better than any one most people would ever meet.

At the end of the day shadow’s not in a great spot, nobody’s disputing that, but you’re whining like you can’t top damage in a 20, like you’re wallowing with the tanks on overall and just dead weight being carried by meta specs.

That is simply not true.

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Ignored posted video showing SPriest being competitive against a Meta Class in a high key
Ignored links from Warcraft Logs
Ignored people posting their SPriest mains
Ignored rIO rankings showing SPriests clearing the same high keys as meta classes
Resorts to things like "

for every response instead of facing facts and proof.

“yuh u have”

I’m not stuck nor am I complaining about Druid? Like you did with your Priest. Would be a different story if i was crying and saying my Druid wasn’t competitive lol. Projection at its finest.

It was an exaggeration at an attempt to show how “good” you…were…are…want to be? Which was a horrible example, again, seeing as we can also see your profiles and see when you actually accomplished said ratings. You’re trying to

But my activity mirrors yours…except I do it in one third the amount of keys lol. So let me rephrase something someone said:

You do, otherwise you wouldn’t be asking for people to post on their mains and think they’re hiding. You NEED them to show their relevance to the argument, meaning you 100% care about what they do in the game…you just didn’t expect people to actually do more than you so now you play the tough guy and try to pass it off…passively. That’s textbook deflection sir.

You do. You’ve read every comment when you’ve come back, or at least the ones that directly respond to you, or else you wouldn’t be able to make claims like:

Well duh, it was like the top 1% at the time it was posted. The reason it is relevant is because it’s such hard content that less than 1% of the playerbase is able to play at that level. Meaning the higher/harder the content, the WORSE Spriest should be doing (according to your claims), and yet it went toe to toe with a meta class.

Not a level 10 forum alt lol and I don’t retain patch dates. I only remember that one because I came back from my haitus the monday before week 2 started. As in I get billed for my WoW subscription in a weeks time. I retain my financial situations lol

Tbf that’s not actually why I posted it, I’m well aware of how ramp up factors into spec performance and as a general rule shadow has always gotten better the longer pulls last and the higher you go, the same can be said for balance druid.

I posted it because while it took some time to get ahead of the dh, he was doing what many would call competitive damage well before that, he was also executing technique that would be applicable at lower keys too.

Despite posting the videos with a timestamp on the first pull what’s actually interesting to see is how the ebb and flow of cooldowns affects who’s leading damage on a given pull and how by the end the priest stays competitive despite getting absolutely bodied in some pulls because they keep up / exceed in others.

Oh i fully understand. That response was directly related to “doesn’t apply to 99% of the playerbase”.

Absolutely right, it doesn’t. But the class has the potential to be competitive in territory where the OP thinks Spriests can’t be playing in

To be fair to him be never specified a key range in his initial post or early responses, given people tend to post about their own experiences the initial points were centred on the 17-20 vault key range. Somewhere shadow is going to do poorly if you consistently get beaten to the punch by burstier classes.

Something you can mitigate by being more proactive / choosing your battles so everyone isn’t blowing everything into the same trash pack that’ll live 10 seconds.

err, then you haven’t gone through this thread. which i know is not true. so i’m not even sure what you’re trying to say here, lol. other than to… gasp argue on the forum like the flunkies do, but you have grizzers for that now!

nah, again with the willful ignorance. i’ve always, always maintained (by all means, go through the thread, use your browser’s search function and type in ‘shadow aoe’, see how many times i mention it. i was about to venture to say i harp on it, but, eh, given the forum flunkies average comprehension ability in here, it was clearly so so necessary.

maybe it has improved some, but a.) it’s still not up to par and b.) i can’t stand the playstyle, hence why i moved on! just like i’m doing with this thread. i’ll leave you and grizzlies to resume going at it as i see you two have with the last few posts, and it’s cool you two have found each other, cause this is what you forum flunkies truly love! just going at it! and i’m not reading that novel’s worth of gibberish grizzlez posted, lol. you two can debate the exact day, month, year, hour, minute and second blizzard major patches were launched! gl!

All I ever came here for was to refute this comment, then I stayed because other people than those who post in these threads read them. I don’t want anyone getting the wrong idea that the spec can’t perform or do what most people would need it to.

Then when you started lashing out at anyone and anything that wasn’t you it just became funny. I’m not above that.

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  1. what would be considered up to par?
  2. that’s a personal problem and not a spec related issue

Not being in a good spot and not being able to be competitive are two separate things outside of a vacuum. As shown by that video that you love referencing.

ZzZzzzzz. you get what you give i guess, ellipticals! and what you quoted, albeit as i already said, might’ve improved some, is still relevant. so, again, aside from squabbling to fill up your hours, i don’t see your point. :confused:

shh. go improve on your druid. ask ellipticals for some help if needed! so we can all watch the argument ensue!

You made this thread 18 days ago, at which point we were never doing tank damage played well so I don’t see how your comment was relevant to begin with, let alone any time after it was posted.

well i guess shadow is fine and dandy then!

edit: argument inc: shadow is NOT at all fine and dandy!

And we’re back to the false dichotomy…

whatever that means. i never got the guidebook to level 10’ers buzzword terminology, my fault!

Talks about how grown adults act, and from what i can tell is the only one responding in that matter?

Definition of a sore loser? Is this typical when people dont get the echo chamber they desired?

It means that you’re posing two possibilities - that shadow is either good or it’s trash and that no other possibility exists. That’s not true - it can be weak in high level play and just fine in mid level play.

There’s no reason shadow can’t be used in 20s. The spec’s design is awful and there’s an endless list of legitimate gripes with that, but the premise of this whole, hilarious thread is wrong.

err, a loser at what? arguing on the wow forums? are you implying… I ‘LOST’ AN ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET??? are you also implying… THAT’S why you and ellipticals use the WOW FORUMS!?! shocking! and very… adult, grizzerz.

ah well, at least i don’t commit to memory wow-related dates like patch launches, lol.

no i didnt. You are also proving my point on the assumption thing. You made an assumption based on what you believe is fact based on your own preconceived biases.