Ret is literally fine.
Why do you think ret is doing really well at the moment? Everywhere I look, every ret is struggling.
You have less than zero clue what youāre talking about.
We are fineā¦. Other classes are destroying better faster stronger. We are left behind already.
Whoever thought making WoG cost mana on top of costing Holy Power was a good idea is insane. Youāre already trading the majority of your damage for WoG, going oom while doing it feels terrible. Meanwhile Arms Warriors can heal themselves for more than Ret.
Proc talents are all dead as well. Divine Purpose and Empyrean Power were nerfed into the ground to the point where taking them is trolling yourself.
6 months later
Oh here we go againā¦ the good rets are still having a lot of success. Itās a very strong class.
I believe is when the bad rests are having success, that a class is OP 
Like me btwā¦. Iām the bottom of the barrel and never shamed on admiring it. Play my games and go do random bgs. Have fun
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Your left behind. Ret is back down amongst the average joes. Like I said 6 months ago. Now going into season 3 it looks like we wonāt be using set bonus unless we really like the playstyle it brings. Itās actually a small dps loss in season 3 pvp. Not sure why it took you 6 months to reply tbh. Iām still mobbing folks pretty solid on mine though.
Oh I aināt complainingā¦. Still pumpingā¦ā¦
But if anyone talks about Ret being op now, fix. Spriest, locks, dh, sub rogue and disc priest.
Just saying, ppl canāt be hypocrites 24/7
Retpocalypse was a long time ago. Put the past behind.
Yeah I agree nerf sub, dh, and maybe a few outliers . Ret doesnāt need nerfing we need blizz to fix scaling so we donāt just get aura buffs until weāre not viable again.
Just stop talking please
did you just say spriest is op right now LOL
spriest is the worst itās been in a long time.
Havenāt played mine since season 1. The playstyle is atrocious. Now they donāt have damage and the utility is less. Such a trash rework. When theyāre not op theyāre underpowered. No middle ground for the spec.
Ret seems fine to me me, if not still a tad broken. Not dh or dk /sub tier broken, but they are above average.
How is ret broken, the issues from last season are more evident right now. Every game I am bashing my head against havoc arms unh destro and its so unfair. I literally die in the opener against a dk, they were supposed to lose burst and gain sustain meanwhile I have many deatjlogs with 130k clawing shadows back to back.
Ret has zero healing literally zero our damage has tanked because no tier set and HoW went back to doing no damage. Either playing FR or ES its just so oppresive the damage and healing of others compared to what I do. Every game being focused and every game even tho Im spam healing myself I just come out last in healing against the specs mentioned. Ret is not fine
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Ret needs some passive damage mitigation buffs thats for sureā¦ also revert hpally mana changes for pvpā¦ arms warriors are out damaging ret pallys and they have a huge MS. Dont even get me started in dhs amd affis
Arms is a melee
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User error
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Arms is tanky
Oh so u want me to trink sleet or asphix and get re cced with the next one? What am I supposed to do? Uh? Use dp and sov and be forced to bubble anyways? Bubble right away and get md$ed and die tither way? Why are you justifying killing someone through defnsives as my mistake?