So we can't do premades anymore

Just queue by yourself. Don’t pvp with guildies. Don’t make friends pvping because if you make too many you have to pvp by yourself. What a joke. Just set it to 1 so we can get it over with. Hell, set it to 0 and let the horde have this entire game to themselves.

Do you have a fun detection system? That must be where all your time goes into. Removing fun.

Talking with people in premade BGs was one of the things that made this grind bearable and you just removed the social aspect of BGs. But hey we get a little box so it’s ok.

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They’re just testing it. The alternative is premade vs premade but you guys would freak out about that too.

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Wah, I can’t premade w/ comms and poop on random pugs… wahhh.

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Premades are social. Random BGs are toxic.

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but you still can pvp with guildy/friends?

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Lol no you want to pug stomp and take away from other ppls enjoyment of the game and you know it

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Sure if your entire guild is a size of 5

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How dare you think a multi-player game should be played with others shame on you.

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And you can.

With 4 others

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You can still pvp with 4 friends, you will “probably” live

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5 friends still make huge differences in all the bgs.

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It just takes the community out of it. When you do premades you’re meeting people. I do waaaaaay more non-premades than premades and you don’t see hardly any premades. Maybe 1/10-15 games is a premade. It’s not like it was in vanilla.

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Actually it’s more like 50% were premades lol. You just want to pug stomp, admit it.

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well since before the change it was a max of 15 are you saying your entire guild is only 15 people? otherwise i dont understand your point.

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Noooo that couldn’t be it, he want’s to play with 14-39 of his closest friends, that he just met in trade chat today, and will never talk to again

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Don’t pretend like you can talk and have fun with 10+ ppl in a group. We all did 40man raids, we all did 25man raid, and we all did 10man raids, you can’t have a fun and personal gaming experience once the amount of ppl in the group trying to talk in discord exceeds 5 ppl. If you want to be a wallflower and never talk in discord while you do BGs then I suggest you listen to a podcast.

Limiting pvp to 5 man groups is fine, you still get to hang out with your friends and pvp.

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Ehh yeah it’s probably different for horde. Regardless, this whole thing with queue times has nothing to do with premades. Premades were in BC and they should remain in BC.

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What?!? You can absolutely have a personal experience with more than 5 people. 25 or 40? Ok I’ll give you that, but 10 or 15 you definitely can. 10 for sure.

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Premades were like 1 in 20 in tbc, it’s more like 1/2 in this time around. Not like tbc at all lol. It’s more like tbc to get rid of them, that would be more authentic

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I mean, OP, what exactly is stopping you from being on discord with 15-40 people while playing in a party of 5?

I’m often on my guild’s discord listening to the main chat with 20+ people while we’re all split into groups doing separate things (i.e. some people in a dungeon, some others questing, some others doing whatever).

Like… there’s literally nothing stopping you from talking to your guildees/friends while playing a BG in a party of 5.

The only thing being stopped here is a group of 10-15 brute force destroying a pug group.

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