It was too broken. You are playing ranked and your opponent is playing quickmatch.
It didn’t make sense.
You can still stay in discord and split into even groups while still talking to all your friends but now * gasp * maybe have a game where the opponent has a chance to win.
You can still go in with 5 players can’t you?
there’s nothing toxic about a casual random bg, its relaxing, its also actually fun for the solo puggers instead of a miserable pub stomping by sweaty premades run by you, lower your salt, you can still team up with a 5man, which is plenty to have a decent advantage. You just can’t gy camp now with a guaranteed win. Which im sure is what really annoys you.
I’ve done a grand total of 3 bgs in total across all my toons at 70 since tbc launched, as the pvp has been utter toxic cancer for me as a solo-pugger, i just havent done any of it as a result, now i have a half-decent incentive to actually pvp now. I’m happy, i still wont do it much, but at least i WANT to do bgs now.
Go back to retail if you don’t like premades
“Wah, I am not winning all my BGs anymore because someone is actually good and using strategy. No fair, I cannot just poop on unorginized mobs! Blizzard fix it! wahhhh!”
Actually you still can.
I just wish everyone would understand the reason this is being done is because horde was making tons of premades in the week back when same faction BGs were first introduced.
Same thing would happen again; horde just has more sweaty players, more likely to make premades.
That’s why this is being introduced; it’s not targeted at alliance per se.
100% the vast majority of people joining a premade aren’t thinking “wow finally coordinated team play, I can’t wait to fight other coordinated teams like us”. The real thought is “wow finally coordinated team play, time to stomp disorganized pugs and blast through this honor grind so I can play arena”
Have fun yelling that in stormwind while premades are gone, you could be the local museum piece.
Hmmm, that sound almost like the same thing the Horde said about long queues.
“I want my queues shorter so I can get through this honor grind.”
Yeah well I’d usually say that stinks since overpopulation lines exist, but blizzard has resolved that issue for them. Hopefully alliance are compensated with honor incentives rather than worthless low gold.
You just want to stomp on pugs. I bet your sweaty premades give up when they face a horde premade
Any time Horde queue in tbc its a pug stomp 90% of the time, are you simple? You are facing people in greens that never pvp and are there for a daily win.
Alliance has a handful of pvpers on TBC compared to Horde thats why premades were necessary theres 0 reason to queue now as Alliance.
Lol really bc I’m like 1-11 today in bg’s.
I lose a lot to alliance pugs, stop exaggerating.
In tbc premades were maybe 5% of the total bg’s I played.
Not only that but say you lose to a horde pug, you can very often get some amount of honor, a la a 3-2 AB whereas if you vs a premade it’s 5-0 with a 30 min queue for horde. In what way is it even remotely possible to gear up like that?
That happened roughly half the time during classic tbc.
Stop dreaming
EDIT: and wtf? Really? Most of the alliance pugs are better geared than horde pugs I’d say, and that’s just a product of the queue times
I love how global statistics always show Horde winning 90% of AVs 70+% of other bgs yet somehow on forums its always “I was 1-11 in bgs today”.
Sure you were kid.
You aren’t going to get anyone to queue for TBC bgs, enjoy your long queues and imabalanced racials.
Find me those statistics bc blizzard themselves have said the win loss rate is 50/50 for alliance and horde in bg’s lol.
Racials are not as drastic as you think they are lol. Wotf is a bit Op but perception, stoneform and escape artist are on par with warstomp arcane torrent and hardiness.
Call me a kid all you want lol insulting me is not going to change the reality of this
Plus in AV alliance at least get some honor when they lose, horde get none at the moment
EDIT: and I am now 2-11 today, yay!
Your faction changed the entire game. They implemented same faction BGs due to Horde.
Vent existed back in TBC and alliance ran premades back then. Same faction bgs didn’t exist.
Alliance aren’t changing the game due to crying. We just want to game to be like it was in 2007. Horde facing horde isn’t that.
Me using vent/discord with 300 people is exactly like 2007.
Yeah, next it will be premades vs premades only. Happy then?
So why do we have same faction queues in TBC(Which never existed in original TBC) if Alliance is winning so much?
If its as you claim why would they need it? Youd have tons of Ally queueing up with their supposed high winrates?
Simple answer, because what you are claiming is b.s.
We have h v h bc horde queues were 1hr + before this it has nothing to do with alliance winning or losing. And we have the 5 man cap bc premades make it not fun for most of us (including alliance btw, horde would premade nonstop during same faction queues if the cap wasn’t put in)
Please research before posting you seem very out of the loop.
You also seem very bitter like a lot of alliance around here.
It literally has nothing to do with win rates lol. And I could find the blizz post that says alliance and horde win loss is 50 50 if you like.
Why do people like you argue for the sake of being in an argument? You don’t know what you’re talking about