So warriors are just screwed for all of WOTLK?

[Smeetologist-pagle]

@Veloxx-arthas

I’d be interested to see the original post where a dev stated they weren’t planning to balance arms because it was a pvp spec.

I’ve tried to find it before in the old blue tracker archives, but devs posted an insane amount compared to now, so I haven’t been able to locate it.

Back in wrath they did do a small buff to frost mages at some point if I recall correctly, and made a post basically saying “we don’t plan to make it just as good as fire because it would be a problem in pvp, but it could be a bit closer”

Just can’t find the actual post.

@Veloxx-arthas

Doesn’t really seem like they are trying to balance all the PVE DPS does it? Go on, try to twist it around.

At the class level, they were, not at the spec level.

@Aggrend-1483

Not a Goal – Bring all of the classes with poor PvE output up similarly. Frost Mages, Subtlety Rogues, Arms Warriors, and Beast Mastery Hunters are all at or below the output of Retribution in PvE and it would be easy to point to this change and say “What about [insert spec here]”. That’s fair, and this very argument was a motivator for us holding off on making changes here. A key argument that swayed us however is that all of those classes have very viable alternatives for PvE DPS, whereas Paladins only have Retribution in this role. All of these specs also have traditionally been viewed as PvP specs, and we are very leery to shift the meta in PvP while chasing a buff to PvE. This is why we went the direction we did for Retribution; as the impact to PvP shouldn’t be large. We’ll continue to evaluate things as time goes by, but we do not have any plans for other similar class adjustments after this one.

They explained it for me…