Didnt they do away with xp off? Or is it just going to be a waste of time with any pre 120 bg at this point
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Not a waste of time to me leveled 3 toons just fine for heritage armor going to work on 2 more once new races come
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They are no longer separated, and haven’t been since Legion.
It wasn’t noticeable then because of PvP templates, but since those are gone with BfA twinks are noticeable again.
I wouldn’t say pre-120 BGs are a waste of time, I’ve leveled a mage from 22-57 so far through nearly just BGs. If you’re doing them to actually PvP you might get bored though, not much you can do to a twink. I have heard some brackets are particularly infested with twinks though.
Most of the time the BGs seem relatively balanced, but when the opposite faction has better/more twinks it can get frustrating pretty quickly.
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low level pvp is a waste of time if you arent going to actually make a character to compete. No you are not going to be competitive in a MMORPG if you wont do the necessary things to get the good gear for your specialization. Sorry but the easy dumb mode has been turned off, only competent players are thriving in pvp in BFA.
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Sorry but the easy dumb mode has been turned off, only competent players are thriving in pvp in BFA.
The amount of irony here is palpable. You’re literally stating the opposite of the truth. Skill and competency are not derived from gear. The fact is twinks love being overpowered. Thats it. Every other excuse is absolute bull.
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Twinks are not as bad as people make them out to be. Even in the worst balanced brackets, if you put some enchants on your heirlooms and are a somewhat competent player, you should be able to compete with most twinks.
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When a 119 has 2x the hp and can literally 2-3 shot me… Thing is twinks need their own bracket again. Only people against this are twinks that want to roll undergeared people.
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Yep very true
As someone currently leveling a couple of alts through intermittent PvP … I’m not sure if that last part is true.
I absolutely covered one of them in enchants and heirlooms, and while they usually did pretty good, there was occasionally a twink player who was so invested into their BiS gear for the bracket, that I’d literally be unable to damage them. It was unreal, watching their self-healing essentially mitigate every hit I made, no matter how many stuns, interrupts etc. I applied to their face at what seemed like opportune moments.
Honestly, it’s kind of turning off some of my non-PvP friends, who I’d really like to join me for a levelling BG every now and then to break the tedium, but it’s an increasingly hard ask when there’s stuff like this.
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It’s a waste of time. This new-age crap dev team made this an issue again. They resolved it YEARS ago, which was the reason queues were separate in the first place.
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It is just like 120 level BGs, there are maxed out geared players and fresh 120s often put in the same BG. At least there is less disparity in stats in lower level BGs, it is not like 120 where you can have over twice as much HP as a fresh character.
I play xp off characters like this one and level alts through pvp. Even my leveling characters don’t do bad, part of the problem is people think at low level BGs you can be missing gear and don’t have to spend any money on gear/enchants. For less than 10k gold per character you can at least get all your heirlooms enchanted and buy decent pieces for your other slots. At a minimum you should try to enchant an heirloom weapon, Elemental force or crusader in most cases, and hidden satyr for neck. This stuff will be good throughout leveling and you won’t get stomped as much if more of you levelers do this.
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Twinks still exist?
The last time I remember seeing “true” twinks (in the sense that they were insanely overpowered, not just “a little”) was back in TBC. The “twinks” around these days just don’t compare, not even close.
You younger dudes missed out for sure ![:grin:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/grin.png?v=6" ":grin:")
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You say that but let’s be real. Look at your gear and compare it to mine and even with full looms with some enchants you’re going to squish me. Doesn’t help with the fact you’re playing one of the more blatantly overpowered specs for the bracket.
There’s still a gap between a casually loomed and enchanted player(like me) than you who have dedicated themselves to one bracket(like you).
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As an expert on myself, and my personal reasons for doing things, I am going to have to disagree with you here. Of course becoming god-like in strength is part of it, but that’s not the only or even biggest reason that some people twink.
I’m doing it this expansion for the first time ever in my ~10 years of playing the game. At the moment the progression of gearing up a twink is so much more satisfying than gearing up a toon at 120. Gearing at end game is kind of a mess right now, Azerite gear is simultaneously mandatory and extremely uninspiring, neck levels are boring and tedious to grind and the whole RNG forging and socket thing makes actually getting BiS pretty much impossible. The process is inconsistent, you ding 120 and get handed most of your gear straight away, do some world quests, kill a world boss, que up and go AFK in a warfront, boom your mostly geared for minimal effort, then you spend the rest of the patch wrestling RNGesus and his disciples, warforging and titanforging, for the last 5% of your power. There isn’t a continuous progression anymore, ramping up smoothly in difficulty and reward, from hitting top level to being geared. And the cherry on top of the sh!t sunday is that the ridiculous jump in power gaps means that even if you do get lucky enough to get BiS forges with sockets it will guaranteed be completely useless in a few months when the next tier drops and raid finder drops better gear. I have 5 toons at 120, in various stages of being geared, and I gotta say after having geared up 2 twinks that getting a twink geared up is far more satisfying than gearing up at 120. Plus it has the added benefit of being permanent, if I have to go on a work trip for a week when I get back I’m not a week behind on my neck level, and missing a weeks of emissary rewards and world bosses, I’ll still be BiS and ready to hop into PvP.
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It’s easier to farm for your honor level having a twink in low level bg’s
Oh I member, that was my 1st and only experience with a decked out 39 ehance shammah running around WW’ing people with mah ravager lol.
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…I disagree…it’s not about being overpowered it’s more about being able to survive long enough to kick some booty…twinking is about survival, skill is about being overpowered…twink + skill means you do well in pvp…
This is my twink. I’m done gearing her.
I do absolutely fine, even as Elemental.
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wut. As someone who loves the idea of twinking because it’s been a thing since Vanilla and it was an honor to get a twink BOE to drop…
I get absolutely 2 shotted on my non geared alts. It’s about being overpowered rofl.
Though that’s not the twinks fault, Blizz could make things more competitive but different brackets are much different. I have less issues with my alts in the 40+ brackets
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…I’ve been messing with 120’s and it’s the same thing in that bracket…you have all the twinked out 120’s and they just go through the non-twinked 120’s…it’s tough to compete in average gear with twinks, no matter what level you are…
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