Now to be fair… A whole other group of creatives had come in. And while Metzen and his crew were like “ok, this would be too much,” those other guys were thinking along the lines of “too much??? More like a good appatizer before the main course!! I like my elf well done!! Blood and Thunder, Strength and some other word… On Her, that’s what it was!!! Blood and glory awaits!! Lok’tar!!!”
And with that, I’m’a stop now. I don’t want to be responsible for inevitably turning this thread into a war crimes measuring contest.
I never like how those end. Nobody should like having the bigger one there.
I personally need to remind myself that this is like an RPG but with a story that just using my Character as filler for whatever the Game Master or Dungeon Masters has scripted and wants it to be… without the freedom or agency to change its course.
If anyone has had their fav beloved character story hijack or held hostage under the penally of erasure by a tyrannical or self absorve Game Master will know what I mean.
There is really nothing to do but keep to the story and ride it of or just walk away or stop playing and wait it gets good again to come back if it’s worth it or if you have not find a better story to continue your characters journey. (IMO that’s what I usually do when GM has his pet NPC and has us as spectators to his fan fic sessions and I don’t want to lose my character)
The sheer lack of mention of the purge made the quest eye rollingly spineless. Oh, you’re going to talk about your past mistakes? How about… what was it called again? The Pruning of Dalaran? Eh… must of been nothing.
Instead you bring up a bunch of nothing burgers that were barely their fault.
I am kind of disappointed that, as a warlock, I could not bring up opinions about how magic should be harnessed or the past actions of the Kirin Tor. The segment with Kel’thuzad would have been a nice way to let the player’s character express their opinion on the ethics of magical research.
I don’t know why I was expecting this, maybe because I got some flavor quest and text on some of the quest with my choices of class or race… but I have to agree, I actually had a lot on my mind during those quest moments, that I would have love to see and say being an Darkfallen Night elf Warlock and how much S**** (in RPG nothing irl serious, just fun with PR people playing as Purist Night Elves) he gets for being an undead warlock who belongs to Night Elf culture!
It is true how everyone conveniently forgets that one of the padarens holy lands was absolutely decimated by Garrosh unleashing the final old god from its prison.
Brother the amount of Pandaren that don’t understand the difference between Tushei and Huojin philosophies convinced me that not even Pandaren care about Pandaren.
They are pretty simple Philosophies, I’m not sure who does not understand them.
Unless you mean in game?
It’s because most peple here wants their side to be spotless, and the other side to be pure evil.
They want war and are painfully biased when it comes to recalling history ( which is the only thing anyone talks about here) and understanding motives.
I wonder how many actually enjoy the faction war though? Outside of the five people in this forum who do that is.
It’s always been, In my opinion, a pointless endeavor to prop up bad storytelling. Dragonflight and TWW have been a really welcome change of pace for a change.
I have zero confidence that any further Faction War story won’t just end up at the Gates of Orgrimmar again for a 3rd time. It’s the only Faction War story Blizzard is capable of telling.
I’d rather just deal with Cosmic threats at this point, tbh. Let’s take a tour of all the realms of the cosmology.
I’ve always said that after BfA, blizz basically made the horde irredeemable, they know it and that’s why they aren’t even trying to walk any of it back or trying to make the horde heroes because they know they can’t. Not without retconning a lot of stuff and risk angering people even more.
I don’t think that’s what it was meant to imply. Jaina says there’s a ship with more people coming right before she leaves. Bringing the entire Kirin Tor down to just fifty people would be an awful move.
We’ve also explicitly seen Kirin Tor survivors who weren’t at the meeting, like in the Nerubian area with the Forsaken archmage.
Logic dictates that he had to have been talking about the leadership of the Kirin Tor, the elites like the Council and such. An entire major faction reduced to only a handful on unnamed NPCs is a little too unreasonable, especially since we know that isn’t the case based on in-game evidence.
Watching Kel’Thuzad portrayed once again as a maniacal 80s cartoon villain stung a bit. Not that I’m surprised, given his laughable portrayal in Shadowlands.
I didn’t think it was that bad. Definitely not as bad as the Gilneas storyline, which was probably the worst possible botching of that that it could be.
It was a nice little quest that did grief in a nice and believable way. We don’t know what’s next for the Kirin Tor. They’ll still be around, but they’re no longer about being a big organization.
I don’t understand. In what way was he not always that? In what way is that not why people love him? That’s why I love him. He is a villain.
He got kicked out of the Kirin Tor for practicing necromancy and crossing boundaries on magical practices. How is that character assassination? That’s faithful to his character.
