There are a few differences between ret and dh tho. For example, ret isn’t under perma rocket boots, dh is. Ret isn’t borderline immune to death, dh is. Ret doesn’t have a million pseudo ccs, dh does. Ret has little self healing, dh has decent to substancial sustain.
See how they’re not comparable? This decree rng crap is dumb, I hate it and I’m sure most long time ret players don’t like it either but comparing ret to dh or sp before their nerfs is completely and utterly stupid.
What? DH has some of the worst mitigation in the game, and can be trained into the dirt by any variation of persistent damage.
Ret has a quite literal 100% immunity to damage, coupled with a complete immunity to physical damage. Ret has HOJ, aoe instant blind, and a defensive-offensive shield.
The only thing ret is missing is a permanently maintainable autoattack snare so far as utility goes.
Ret burst is way out of line. If you disagree, you’re playing ret and crutching it up to 1800 before it gets nerfed.
To think someone is actually serious about this, so many chemicals in food these days.
This is what happens when General Discusion queues lol.
you mean when it ya know isn’t dispelled or broken instantly?
Dispellable
1.5 min CD breaks on even half your own damage
shield of vengeance literally has the nickname shield of paper bc its like actually trash.
what kinda take is this?
already at and past that and no it isn’t out of line for a 1 trick pony with nothing else going for it
Never got higher burst. Decree wasnt changed.
Not entirely true. FR was buffed.
Rets having the capability to global two people at once from 50% hp is just not okay. Anyone defending this is delusional. It’s just straight up toxic gameplay.
It’s always the class instantly deleting people rolling in gas lighting everyone else into believing they’re weak.
Just dont get hit dude.
Correct. There are other classes that can do this though (well, not 2 people but 1).
Also correct.
And also correct, the problem is that the spec has nothing else, if you take that away while also being the spec with the least reliable cc and the with arguably the lowest survivability and certainly the lowest mobility in the game you might as well termporarily disable it.
As many other rets have stated, nobody wanted this lol.
Idk how they are but rets could be the best class in the game and rets would still be crying
If you stop and start to think about it, they are…
I mean… They doing it to MM hunter by removing double tap and giving nothing in exchange, so I’m sure they can do it to ret paladins too while you have UH DKs that just remain untouched. 
No problem, UHDK still needs more nerfs, but let’s not forget about rets tho…
rets could be the best class in the game and rets would still be crying
Ret is the squishiest DPS spec in arena, can easily melt them in seconds because our defensives either either too weak to help or are dispellable.
Well at least MM, while not an ideal situation, has other 2 dmg specs to try, in the case of ret there is no choice.
In any case I think MM can still do decent cc lol.
The poeple in here unironicaly thinking DH are more squishy then ret are on some good copium LOL.
Ret is literally the most glass melee right now.
Ret will still be fine even if they nerf Radiant Decree by 30%.
Id rather face a ret than an evoker, warrior, DK or rogue. You pop 1, just 1, little defensive ability and you will survive the ret damage, then they die.