Yeah you right they are doing a better job this expansion than in the past.
In regards to overall developer attention tho it’s pretty undeniable they put less of it towards PvP than they do PvE. Always has been.
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It’s a population of people that will never be happy no matter what. I don’t blame um
but you are right 100%
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Yeah I don’t necessarily either to be fair.
Aside from the fact that it’s inherently harder to balance PvP where it’s competitive rather than cooperative, the majority of their playerbase is PvErs.
From a business perspective it makes total sense, you put most of your resources where most of your playerbase is.
It just sucks as a PvPer lol.
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I think if there’s only 1/2 classes you hate they’re doing a relatively good job lol
I hate warlocks and… frost mages 
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I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you knew the 6-7% of Americans that were unemployed up until 2022. This isn’t a discussion, they’re facts lol. The entire gaming industry had record profits. Posted, true profits. We are only just now seeing a downward trend. I don’t care what you and your friends did, that is irrelevant. You are a small blip on a percentage of a percentage of a percentage. We are talking big numbers here, go back to the kids table. 14 million people were unemployed compared to 6 million that are unemployed today. If even a fraction of that played then thats enough to tilt the numbers.
Twitch, Facebook gaming, and other game streaming services saw anywhere from a 60% to a 180% during the pandemic, all the way until 2022.
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Discounting an entire expansions pvp population because of COVID is silly
People left in s3/s4
When they made casters good
There was so many “I quit” threads around the dumb caster trinkets. Even I was about to quit. Most of them never came back. Sad day.
https://imgur.com/a/Fh09swy
https://www.statista.com/statistics/276601/number-of-world-of-warcraft-subscribers-by-quarter/
Pretty insane “boom” LOL
For someone who loves to argue as if they know everything in the world. You really should fact check yourself before you start listening to Jugaa. She’ll make you look dumb quick
I had this big reply explaining data exploration and creating connections to support retention decisions but I’m out of time so I’ll simply say Blizz won’t ever make a change without data to backup a decision. It’s still a shot in the dark (was normalized gear a good idea? was SS? I could argue either way) ultimately, but they will use historical matches before they do anything.
True.
And the only data that matters is $$$ in.
For them to remove premades it would have to be costing them money, and I just don’t think that’s the case. Again because IMO the player who would quit due to random bg losses doesn’t exist, or if they do it’s such a minority of a minority that it’s statistically irrelevant and the game shouldn’t be designed around them.
S3 was when unemployment fell below 4% and returned to pre-pandemic levels. I’m sorry that you didn’t like S3.
This refutes your own point silly.
Also This information is based on estimations based on subscribers and online sentiment , meaning that it is not 100% accurate.
They say DF has 4.9 million subscribers, then in another part of their website they state that 8.5 million people are playing monthly.
You’re literally just googling crap last minute to find anything to support your argument, without doing any research yourself.
I don’t need to provide the mountains of evidence that support my point of view. My point of view is a well-known fact. During the pandemic I was a working adult in the tech industry, during the pandemic you were trying to graduate high school remotely. You don’t have a dog in this fight, and the fact that you would choose this time to push your “caster meta” nonsense is a joke.
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There was no boom
Game has been getting worse ever since they introduced solo shuffle/caster meta
The graph proves my point
Subs cost different amounts of money in different countries m8
COME ON KTHIS YOU’RE SMARTER THAN THIS LOL
Sub count was down in s1/s2 and yet pvp population was incredibly high.
There was no boom.
Your point is completely invalidated.
Revenue also =/= subs
microtransactions
In this context, you don’t want to look at subscriber numbers, you want to look at daily account users. You posted an estimated, unproven statistic where in the actual statistic it even says that it isn’t accurate.
No one said anything about revenue. This was an argument that you created in your head. While it is true that quarterly revenue was up for blizzard during the pandemic, no one said this. You read this somewhere and thought it appropriate to bring this up for whatever reason.
You didn’t like S3 and S4. That’s what this is about.
Pull a chart to see the active player count month-by-month comparison.
Here i’ll help you. htt ps://activeplayer.io/world-of-warcraft/
If you need more information you’ll have to wait. I don’t have the crayons nor the construction paper readily available to draw you a map to a conclusion.
There was no boom.
You’re a dork lol
Subs → less than before covid
Revenue → same ballpark
WHERE’S THE BOOM M8
Why did you take Jugaa’s word lol
https://steamcharts.com/app/730#All
^ example of a game that actually had a boom. Csgo’s population more than doubled during COVID. WoW’s did not.
(I got some some construction paper and crayons maybe we can learn graphs together)
Tell me you didn’t look at my chart without telling me you didn’t look at my chart.
Dude I’m quoting actual experts, during the pandemic your biggest issue was the upper-half of your body for virtual prom. You can try to explain WoW pvp to me (and still fail) but you barely dipped your toe into the real world. You have no idea how to even begin to understand trends in the markets during a booming economy, let alone a pandemic economy. You’re scambling around to find anything that you can grasp, telling the adults what we know to be true is false.
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The gaming industry did boom, I even linked a game that had a dramatic increase in population.
people were looking for free games in COVID. Not games to subscribe too
(lmk about the construction paper and crayons, they’re getting cold!)
You’re right, she’s wrong. Covid helped out the gaming world big time. Not even just wow.
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I miss the days where my biggest arguments were gear disparities during BFA and they were against you.
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The good ole days huh? 
Right? The days where there were more than just 10 people in each forum
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I mean realistically the population is low not because of some caster meta or premades but really just a dying MMO genre and the fact that wow is going on 20 years old.
With this much content in this many expansions under blizzard’s belt. I really don’t see a way where they can bring some fresh blood into the game.
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