So premades are... actually a problem

I didn’t either, but I also didn’t log on until Thursday evening. May have been fixed by then.

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^ These.

That’s cool.

:telescope:

Out of how many?

About ten or so.

Dear Folks,

In my eyes, if you run premade and party sync in EBGs and Random BGs then you’re GUILTY of promoting unfairness gaming in WoW because you intentionally do premade and party sync in order to promote unfairness.

If you want to do premade and party sync, sure, there is a pvp mode called Rated 10v10. In that mode, your premade gets to fight another premade with both sides using Discord voice channel and raid warning, you get to fight on “equal” footing.

Now we have pro-premade and pro-party sync people saying, oh premade existed back in 2005. They’re half right, back then, for WSG, you alone can’t queue WSG solo but need to form 10-men group and leader had to click the NPC at the WSG portal entrance in order to queue for pvp, treat it like today’s rated 10v10. The only BG that you could join solo was AV (level 51 to 59 are also in level 60).

Now we have pro-premade and pro-party sync people saying, oh what if I want to play with more friends, what if I want to play more than 10+ friends. Jesus Christ, how many friends do you have? Imagine you’re going camping with 10 friends without cars with only you driving your car, but the car can’t take more than 5 passengers, what do you do? Have them sit on the roof of the car? You can tell the remaining 6 friends to go hang out somewhere else.

Now we have pro-premade and pro-party sync people saying, oh I don’t like joining pugs because of toxicity, stupidity and idiocy. Well, those 3 things exist way before WoW was born, and you can’t stomach them? Who are you? Are you Amy from Amy’s Baking Company on Kitchen Nightmares?

Last night in my dream I dreamt me being that Executioner (Commissioner Nathanael Barn) yelling GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY at the WoW players who promote premade and party sync in EBGs and Random BGs in Gotham Asylum, I think it was my inner devil that couldn’t stand this kind of unfairness, that one team has Discord and Raid Warning support before they even get into the game vs the team with no such supports and must endure the beat down.

Just admit it man, you premade and party sync ENJOY the advantages you have over pugs.

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If no one else has a car or just can’t drive, rent an uber for the rest? I wouldn’t leave anyone behind going camping.

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Or they can go to camping on another day?

But why? That’s silly.

Not enough space in the car.

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Rentals or Uber it.

The camping site a long way to Apalachee mountains and rental and ubers services don’t like to drive to those remote locations. What do you do?

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The queue syncing I completely understand. I don’t advocate for that and were I ever to, I’d only ensure it’d be against another premade in BGs. I like my premades, but I don’t tend to go around Blizz and their rules knowing I could get in potential trouble. Already bad enough people are queue syncing rated solos to win-trade and such, even in the lower brackets.

You pile everyone in who is willing to pile in. Breaking seatbelt laws as consenting adults isn’t morally reprehensible as only the people choosing to put themselves in danger are in danger

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People rent cars to drive across the country lol

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Premades should only be qued into other premades, ESPECIALLY for epic random battle grounds. It like literally pointless to even try when you have a 40 man organized raid against 40 random players, it causes majority of the raid to leave or have to suffer through 20+min of onesided pain.

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Yet, you don’t leave in protest when these premades carry you. You should be ashamed.

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Dear Mizriz,

Suppose we have a tauren and a gnome and we only have 1 seat left. Would you like the tauren to seat on the gnome’s lap?

Dear Sweet Cherry,

But I do try my best to educate them, but premaders wouldn’t listen. I do it every game in a premade. I usually tell them to pause the game a bit and let me have 2 minutes to explain why premading and group syncing are unfair, they wouldn’t listen.

Oh yeah baby

NOT IN FRONT OF THE CHILDREN!!!

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the premade isnt the problem. the matchmaking is.

why is it putting a stacked premade vs a crap gear pug team?

who even has fun in that? does the preamde have fun farming the GY killing every1 in 2 shots? seems like it would get old fast

i really just wish pvp was 100% NOT GEAR BASED. oh well… that will most likely never happen. they could at least shrink the gear gaps so i can stop being screwed over by the green gered healers on my team

the best games r the close ones. nobody is ever gonna remember a GY farm, thats boring stuff

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I assume the stacked premade. Or else why would they keep doing it?

I guess a few of the premades enjoy it, because they still farm HKs.