So Overwolf is just going to be allowed to hold a monopoly over addons?

So, if I’m wrong I apologize. I’m rather behind on the cursforge vs wowup situation but the way I understand it.

Cursforge (overwolf) hosts the addons and pays for the storage and servers to maintain the addons for download to the public by using their application or downloading the addon on individual level for manual install.

WowUp, which is a competitor and who just signed a agreement with Wago Io offers a similar application but still gets the majority of the addons that it is offering to install from cursforge.

And cursforge has denied access to WowUp to it’s API, Storage, and servers.

Was I able to sum this up correctly? Or am I missing something?

Protip, install curseforge without overwolf:

Go here: https://download.curseforge.com/#download-options
Scroll down to download options and click the down arrow next to the download button and choose the Standalone WoW client as seen here:

you can thank me later…

p.s. even wowhead did a post about it recently:

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20 minutes to update…mine usually only takes about 20 seconds.

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This sounds more like an issue with your internet connection or something else going on… Addons only take seconds to update. Even to download and install new addons takes seconds too.

For example here’s proof:

As you can see it took approximately 7-8 seconds to update an addon even as bloated as Narcissus… and Narcissus is a hefty addon at a staggering ~170MB in size with nearly 2800 files contained within it’s excessive number of 141 addon folders:

For comparison, major comprehensive addons such as Deadly Boss Mods (DBM) only weigh in at about 11MB, to give you an idea just how big of an addon Narcissus is and how it still only took seconds to update Narcissus with Curseforge.

Ublock is a wonderful tool to counter bad ad practices. With curse, the lite client is the least intrusive add on manager. I wish WoWUp was still functional, but like everything on the internet, it is subject to change.

wiggles toes

I dont find it at all slow. And you cant really blame them if add on creators are slow to provide updates. That happened in the past as well, sometimes we’d wait weeks for new versions after game updates.

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I am shocked that people still create add ons for a game getting closer to the two decade mark.

Yeah, and Im shocked that people still insist on denying the extreme yummyness of pineapple pizza!

:pizza:

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hugs Kneeshooter and wiggles toes

I loathe it, but will tolerate it for peace in the forums. I rather have a supreme pizza with anchovies.

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People looked through the original code of one of the clients and found traces of mal- and spyware who gather your data (OS) to sell it. And if this wasn’t bad enough already, the spyware running in the background used too much ram (inefficient programming) which can reduce your overall PC performance.

Makes no good impression.

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Can I get a rundown. Why is overwolf bad again?

Aye, this is what I do too. I didn’t even know there were programs that did it for you until this drama all started unfolding. I figured it was easy enough to just download it on my own, and point it at the addons folder.

Then again, I use very few addons, and most of the ones I use are updated infrequently by design, so I understand it might be more frustrating with a more involved list of mods.

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they spend the time and money to have the most comprehensive and up to date mod storage server for all of wow (even classic). And other games.

they cut off leeching freeloaders using 3rd party apps via api lockdown.

now they are evil.

Usually with freeloaders any attempt to get paid irks them. even if its the real easy to ignore ad panel of overwolf.

code just writes itself to these people. wowup didn’t give mod authors one 1 dime.

Overwolf runs the repo, runs the api access to it, they can do what they want. Those not liking this can run their own repo server(s) and tell wowup of it. Most add ons are GNU. Collect them up, maintain them…and run the file servers. and then do all the updates. file security. backend coding for submissions. you know…work.

ofc wowup won’t be chipping in on their monthly bills for that. They will leech as some other guy pays the bills. Kind of why overwolf cut them off at api level.

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curse and itunes were stand out programs back in the day because of how prehistoric they felt to open,

was v sad i had to switch back to curse but it’s def not as clunky anymore, so ill deal with it.

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Like the old phrase, “If it aint broke, dont fix it… You’ll break it” And that is what they did with itunes too. I hate their new setup. Even the WoW forums. We used to have signatures on the old forums here. And this account is not linked to my main account so if I ever say I did something in a raid of arena, people will say “No you didnt your account has zero progress in that”. Then we get into an argument and… all because the new setup allows people to look at account armories even if it is blocked here. Old setup not the case.

I even have the Baby Blizzard Bear in idol form on a toon. Old version everyhing now days is usually better.

Does overwolf do something bad? It shuts down when I exit from it. I only open to update addons

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There are 3 parts that must blamed.

  1. Curseforge. This is obvious but also the most easily acceptable one. Corporations want to make money, and for that they will/can do anything they can. Pretty much all corporations do scammy things like this.

  2. Addon devs. Addons WERE NEVER MEANT to be as an income source. It was suppose to be a hobby thing. Addon devs back in Vanilla and early xpac DID NOT make any money from addons. Now, most addon devs want to make quick buck. I am not blaming them but this was not suppose to happen.

  3. Blizzard. Blizzard now develops encounters/content with certain addons in mind. Meaning some people are pretty much forced to have these addons. The dependency of addons are getting worse with each xpac.

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This is what I was gonna point out. Overwolf is the problem, not so much Curse, and they responded by making their own addon manager that’s standalone. Technically, it’s in “alpha” but it works great.

Just used WowUp. Updated my addons. Rescanned. Everything is current. I have no idea what the problem is?

Isn’t a solution to just have blizzard support a first party addon repository?

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