So much for the prepatch event

You shouldn’t be rewarded for dying. Being a zombie should feel slow, clunky, and ineffectual. It’s meant to be (and should be) a neat little gimmick of curiosity, not a tool for intentional and relentless griefing.

I was there at the Wrath event, I don’t need reminding.

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Okay, point to me where i have misinterpreted and gladly explain it to me, i’l listen. :ear:

I do want to correct mistakes if i made any because i know i’m not 100% right.

For one thing, I’m pretty certain most of your responses are toward people in support of the event. Despite your clear words saying otherwise, there is a bias.

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Hey I am 100% with you on that. Was buggy though. I leveled using the harvester trick. Drop a harvester, pillar hump it with a dew back, sit back and attack till its dead. Easiest way to level Rifles pistols and carbines.

I did end up going Creature handler though. And I forget the name of class that you could create your own creatures though

I play WoW so more times than I can even fathom.

Yes they should remove the durability loss when you die to a zombie.

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It respecting War Mode is also an improvement. Removing the ability to grief is always a good thing.

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Its not griefing homever.

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With the hope of avoiding a circular argument:

If I’ve turned off War Mode, that means I don’t want to PvP. Forcing flag by attacking as a zombie gets around that decision.

The ideal solution would be to shard those with War Mode disabled into an ‘invasion-lite’ kind of scenario. Turning War Mode on would shard those players into the full-on experience.

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At least we still have all the armor to collect, the icecrown citadel part, the boss drops aka the pure PvE part. I look forward to that still.

I’l forgive for any bias their might be in their way. And i will admit, there are times when the other side does have comments that aren’t really helpful either that does escape me sometimes. And i will admit i can be biased sometimes, i’m not immune to that. In attempts of having a neutral opinion, i can see how it can be seen as bias. I’l cop to those mistakes.

For one, i’m against namecalling here, and this applies everybody here. So while i’m against you guys calling people “whiners, crybabys kill joys, karens, carebears,” etc and fill in the blank, i’m also against people calling “sociopaths, psychopaths, murderers, trolls” or even “griefers”. I think that is going even further then those the subset of pro-event people who call people “whiners”. That is stuping to their level and not rising above it. Let it alone, namecalling really doesn’t serve a point in your arguments. I don’t rely on that. It’s silly

Another, i do try and even understand what the pro-event community’s arguments are saying and guess what? i agree with some of them. Heck, i even said that the zombies need to be more powerful and buff and balanced to be a fair ghouls/players… multiple times infact, and yet i never seen you ever commenting on it.

Hell, i even made this comment, also multiple times (correct me if i’m wrong on that, i think i have, maybe it’s on the same thread). :point_down:

Doesn’t that tell you that i have the capacity to understand your side and even agree some with your guys points? I even had fun with this event, twice. Also said multiple times. Yet you never comment on that.

Heck, i wasn’t 100% against the event to begin with. I think it was fun the first time around, but i can understand it can be annoying without an opt out button.

What honestly baffles me and why i am …“Biased” i guess and responding to the subset of pro-eventers, is how this simple request to opt out (not asking for it to be removed or nerf) is somehow an attack on your event and that means i 100% hate it. Not to mention the contradictory/hypocritical/double standard/inconsistancies, all that jazz they say when i point out to them and they say they aren’t.

Heck, you did the same thing to me with this comment here.

…You dislike the event now, so i tell you to take your own advice, that “if you don’t like it, just log off”, because that’s what you told me because you think i dislike the event (even though i had fun) and actually believed in. Yet you don’t even take your own advice, probably because i think you wern’t expecting your argument was gonna be used against you?

“Log off if you don’t like the event! stop changing this event!” And then turn around and say “This event sucks, change it blizzard!” . You can claim your complaints are legit, but all criticism or opinions are allowed and valid, regardless if you think their legit or not. :confused:


While on the subject of feedback, i’m somehow forced flagged off of warmode and that is just from flying over a city. Though the event is on a time cycle.

And second, the infect range for those roaches are way too far. I one shotted them with a Concentrated flame atfer giving my self quite a bit of a distance away, about 20 years at most and i still got insta turned into a zombie. How does that make any sense? I even tried it again on the roof and the same thing happened. Even after they evaded me after i hit them on the roof. I don’t think that’s suppose to happen. Granted they are neutral, and i guess that is an incentive for attacking them, but i can’t help but to imagine some poor unlucky mage or even hunter accidentally pulling them 40 yards away and still getting infected.

One,I should’ve read into the ptr about what happen,the statement i made about the subject was took a different way then what it assumed to be. I don’t pick sides ,I always look at what is presented to me,then comment about it.I thought it was balanced from the point of a pver ,not from a pvpers,But i guess because BFA was more towards casual pver ,the pvers were left out and they wanted the event to be just that full clear pvp. Am I right In assuming that was the case?

False. Zombies are NPcs mostly and should thus be allowed to infect you. Warmode is For player interactions homever Which is a Different case entirely.

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Then the zombies are about where they need to be stat-wise. Infection should be curable by PCs, and you shouldn’t be able to rise as a zombie from infection if you don’t have War Mode. Also being attacked by a zombie shouldn’t flag you.

Currently on the PTR and whenever you enter Org you are immediately PvP flagged. If you leave the town and let the timer go down it clears the flag. If you stay in Org and let the timer go down you’re still flagged and have to redo the 5 min timer when you leave again.

Update: The zombies still seem to be pretty weak.

Update #2: I changed characters and was immediately flagged at log in. Looks like they are testing this option currently.

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But I don’t make as much gold from the AH in other cities. /end sarcasm

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??

What is with you people? Blizzard changed the event to make sure people couldn’t grief others and you’re all whinging about it. Just flag up for PvP and go murder others who do, and trust me, people will do exactly that. They’ll flag up, they’ll get ghouled and then they’ll go and murder other players who flag up as well.

If your concept of fun is griefing other players and making the game impossible to play, to the point where you strongly object to any change meant to reduce that, then I have to wonder what is wrong with you.

You’re also blatantly ignoring the fact that there’s an entire phase of the event that takes place in Icecrown, filled with daily quests and powerful rares to kill (none of which are soloable) with many of them dropping loot that references the former loot drops that they had in WotLK.

And that’s assuming that we don’t get more added as the event continues over time since it will be going for roughly 3 to 4 weeks and Icecrown stuff starts in week 2.

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personally I would like better looking armor than the reskinned bfa one, and the dailies to me are pretty…unsatisfying. I could do unsatisfying dailies in any zone tbh. Don’t need an event to do those…

Yea the legion event had way better armor but still.

So we are flagged as we enter the game at that time for the event?