First time Blizzard seemed to remember Shamans even exist and we can’t even get into an easy raid.
Hmm, lets see the top 20 logs…
12 Warlocks
7 Mages
1 Melee Hunter
0 Shamans
INB4 “BUT THE ARMOR”! Pretty sure Shamans do more magic damage than Hunters unless Wind Serpents are still so broken they need another nerf.
So I guess Alliance are just so entitled they think Shaman’s need to be Pally snacks in order to be allowed to exist, I’m not sure what makes them so “beyond broken” after playing one myself. And that one guy who spams youtube clips of 3 people at 25% HP running into a full HP Shaman one by one with their levels edited out in the middle of a Blood Moon event is evidence of what exactly? Based on logs and my own experience Shamans need another pass of buffs, especially 2H Enhance and Restro who are far behind even the other extremely low outliers in performance.
Sorry to burst your Divine Shield, but hating a faction in a video game and trying to ruin people’s fun by legit lobbying Blizzard with actual political techniques is cringe and if it worked in the past I doubt it will work now that everyone else is calling out how you guys get buffs/ nerfs. You OVERUSED your best method. Yes, 40 people posting on low level horde alts they haven’t touched in 8 years pretending to vote for “the cause” unbiasedly is seen right though now. Making the same thread on chars from different eras, as if “I’ll take things that didn’t happen for 100 Alex” is something normal to see 3 times in a row across 3 OPs back to back. As if it isn’t the same person making multiple threads to make a non-issue seem shared by more people. Again, cringe.
Buff Shamans. RealID wasn’t a mistake. Shaman’s are a joke in PvE after the changes and far under at least Spriests, Rogues, Metalocks, Ret, and Hunters in PvP.
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yep, all these shaman posts are most faction hate than any other thing.
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Are absolutely meaningless.
What’s the 90th percentile look like?
Or better yet, the 75th?
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Hey, they make the top 21! That’s pretty good! My spec is not even top 600, the best Shadow Priest is 699th.
Remember the joke about Shadow Priests being top?
On more related topics, I agree that 2h needs buffs, and the 2h Mastery rune should be made more accessible for lower levels considering that it is a chest rune to make up for not getting any 2h support last phase.
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I’m glad you asked. Their median is 51% and their low end is 33% which is behind EVERY SINGLE CLASS AND SPEC IN THE GAME, except Ret and Frost Mage. Only the very bleeding edge Shamans are literally inching less than a percentile above warlocks.
Evidence: sod.warcraftlogs com/zone/statistics/2008
Must be nice to live in a fantasy world where you can confidently ask for nerfs throwing out wild numbers like 90th percentile when the worlds best Shaman’s performance peaks at 67%. And the average player running to QQ on the forums isn’t running into the WORLD’S BEST SHAMAN over and over. As you can see for yourself, the average shaman is right there in the middle. 51%. This proves Shaman’s need gear, and skill, and Alliance can’t tolerate them being 1% better than average.
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Literally a shaman at 21. Wonder why topped 20 was picked.
I guessing if there wasn’t a shaman in the top 6 it would have been “lets look at the top 5”
Anyway, don’t think people are saying enhance is op in PvE. But they are true in saying Enhance is way overloaded with defence and offence and defence removal in PvP. If you have a 40 enhance shaman and haven’t pvped yet. go do it and have some fun being broken while it lasts.
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Well, that’s at least interesting.
So you have to go all the way down to 21st top dps in the world before you see a shaman? OH NO!
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Me: Hmmmm… no shaman in the top 20 logs… that’s such a weird number to choose to cut off the “top” at. -curiosity takes over-
looks up top logs
sees a shaman at #21
Ah… well, there ya go.
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i wonder how far you have to scroll down to find a ret pally :'D
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idk, I looked through the first 3 pages and didn’t see any. But I still love this class. And my shaman alt I’m leveling atm. But I also don’t care about parses like some of these mouth breathers.
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Yea was mainly teasing you haha <3. I usually look at top 100ish parsers cause usually the top parsers cheese/pad and or have insanely fast kill times
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Um, enhance is second on dps and ele is fourth on the gnomer 1 day logs. What did I miss here?
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That people like to filter on 2 weeks after a buff barely comes out or just look at the top of the top where raids and guilds are crafted around parsing for the people that got there to pretend they’re fine.
The number 1 paladin is 118th which is decent!
Horde are winning 9 of 10 battle grounds and it often has to do with the propensity of Shamans.
They are extremely, overly powerful in PVP - hence their population in that area.
People are complaining about that, not logs or PVE or where they rank in raids.
it couldnt be that most of the alliance teams are terrible now could it?
nawwww.
There are “tank” shamans in the top 100.
Top rogue: #959
Honk honk.
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Alliance spent all P1 in giga geared premades steamrolling 25:1 games getting exalted before Horde even hit honored. Now whoever’s left behind gets to play real WSGs like we did for 3 months cause all your good group coordinators moved onto AB. If anything Horde has an edge with Shamans cause you have no healers and Ele/ Enhance can at least off heal. Not proof they are broken at all and every game I check meters and Shamans avg like 6-7 KBs and Spriests rock like 25+, we’re never top healing, or damage, or kills… so I’m not seeing a disparity anywhere other than “I’m losing a game and I’m used to premades, Horde have shamans and we don’t that HAS to be it! There’s no way my whole team is just bad”, when in reality, your whole team is just bad.
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