I feel like even if this works out to be a fun change it’s time they could have spent revamping brewmaster monk to not be the laughingstock of the tank world. Or at least that’s the impression I get from the forums. I’m just a nobody who does nobody content.
Because it kinda sucks either way.
If you liked your pets, you lose them.
And if you played MM to avoid pets because you just wanted guns and you didn’t want animals, now you have an eagly stalker in your life against your will.
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Honesty its tipping at windmills
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Remember that time when Demo not only had Meta form, but the entire spec was built from the ground up to utilize to spend your resources? Or that time Survival was Ranged? Or that Combat was a spec and not a slot machine? Class reworks happen, and blizz will never be able to make everyone happy.
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Well, I accept your respect.
But I have.
Am I a “main” hunter? absolutely not. Am I an “off” hunter. nope. I’m a surface hunter that primarily uses him to farm. So, my experience is limited, but still my own.
What I do not necessarily care for is pet classes to begin with. It’s part of what prolly keeps me from being more Hunter also except Druid is best. and undead mage is a killer combo from hell.
So for me, and many others like me, cause I know for a fact, I aint the only bad, MM and BM feel more similar than not.
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Yeah, I remember when WoW was ruined to me.
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Indeed. The darkest day happened and yet here we are. Life moves on. Brighter news, MoP Classic!
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This is great!
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Sure. I get that. They took away Spectral Recovery, 2h windfury, and various totems from shaman. Im very mad about SR vanishing, but what can you do?
They need to keep the game fresh. And id rather it be fresh than a museum piece that increasingly turns away new players, while old players lose interest - all so some players can “feel attached”
The will of the individual is not more important than the life of the game. Its hurts me as well, but its the right move.
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2h windfury is added back with the patch though just fyi. you can read it yourself
I saw what youre referring to but i think thats for Axe & Shield not for 2h, but both of us are guessing.
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Yeah, not a fan of this. My main MM playstyle has always been to micro the pet and use Misdirect to help it round up mobs and hold their attention while I Volley/Barrage/Trick Shot/Binding Arrow/Trap the cluster of enemies to death. MM has poor survivability compared to BM and Survival. Not being able to pull out a Turtle to tank a tough elite for you means you’re forced to swap to BM for that.
I can’t even imagine doing Delves without a pet. Even well above recommended item levels, mobs hit hunters so hard that I can’t imagine how an MM hunter is going to deal with a pack of 4 enemies without a pet. You’ve got one freezing trap, and your other soft CCs probably let you kill another enemy before the group gets to you, but now you’ve got 2 enemies on you that both probably hit you for 20+% of your hp so now you’re kiting them back through areas you’ve already cleared just to take them out. And you just do that for the entire delve, I guess?
Feels like devs thinking only of M+ and Raids for the 4523452345234th time in WoW’s history.
Edit: Forgot we’re getting Tank Brann in 11.1, so I guess we’ll still have a tank in delves. It still wrecks my preferred playstyle for questing, dailies, farming, etc, strategy, though. Not to mention content like fighting rares in areas like the Siren Isles without others around. Standing around waiting for more people or changing specs because you’ll die in 2 hits if you try to fight it without a group feels horrible.
An important note may be that I’m basing a lot of this on playing MM with Lone Wolf and no pet. I’m assuming that the reworked MM will have roughly the same survivability and utility. Every time I spend a while using Lone Wolf I inevitably run into fights that force me to call a pet to survive. I’m having a hard time imagining how the reworked talents we’ve seen so far will remedy that.
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Thats the case for a lot of classes. I camt really do a Delve well as resto.
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Oh, did you see the Brann tank change? Could be neat. Slow, probs
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It’s needed in my experience.
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good. finally back to how it used to be lol LONE WOLF!
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Just kite?
You have slows, stuns, knockbacks.
How are mobs reaching you?
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Well since MM has given hunters the ability to solo alot of content with our pets, now they’re taking that option away (as I understand it) That’s just not ok, imo.
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What content…?
Do people just not learn the spec. Rely on a pet instead of their cc and just stay low tier forever?
lone wolf is an optional talent. even if it’s an Optimal Optional talent it’s still optional.
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