So many guilds dying even with 9.1.5 date

There is simply nothing new on 9.1.5

The qol changes are nice and needed, but what would I do? Clear SOD using every covenant?

I’m glad for the changes, but I will only really use it when 9.2 comes… and it is so, so far away right now. We haven’t ever heard about it. I expect nothing before february/march, to be honest.

The only thing keeping my sub right now is that I’m leveling a character on TBC classic. Just for the sake of it, since I don’t have any intention of engaging on end game content on the classic servers. After I’m done, I’m very likely to drop my sub to play other games until 9.2 hits. Most of my guild is doing the same and I imagine that is what happening in almost every guild.

Firstly, I’m not “glossing over the ‘threats’” because I genuinely have no clue what you are referring to. Secondly, I have never heard him crap on casuals. In fact, he supports casual open world AND instanced content. He just says that the casual content in the game right now sucks and he is absolutely right.

You act like he exploited to gain a competitive advantage against other players. He used an XP potion stacking bug to level up alts faster in BfA. Sure it’s an exploit, but it is one that I would definitely have taken advantage of too. If you’re really that pressed, he even made a big apology to his community for letting him down and getting kicked from the creator summit.

Which is something that helps absolutely nobody. His “cheating” was barely even bad, and surely did not warrant a ban. If it was Classic, where leveling takes astronomically longer, sure. In a version of the game where leveling is a small part of the actual experience and you can boost to max level anyways, it was a nonissue. Should we ban all the people who leveled up alts in timewalking while the XP was bugged a few months ago? I don’t think we should.

Banning him from the summit stopped Blizzard from receiving potential helpful feedback from a knowledgeable creator which could make the game better. It was a lose lose situation by banning him from it.

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Who is Preach and why should we care what he says?

Some dude with a history of being right about problems. Why should you care?because he has a history of being right about problems…

Someone who has contact with the developers regularly and talks to them outside of interviews. If they have questions about community reactions, surely they reach out to certain community figures right?

I’m sure you know he is so you’re just asking a snarky question, but there you go. Also, I gave you literally zero opinion of his, so you don’t have an opinion of his to listen to luckily. I only shared something he had heard, not an opinion. :+1:

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why would 9.1.5 bring guilds back theres no content

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as someone that started off as basically an enthusiastic shadowlands shill, I think i’m with you on this. This expansion is done imo…between the legal drama they have to deal with, the mix up with management and completely changing their direction with the game, I see this as maintenance mode for the next year or so…

i am hopeful for next expansion though.

i think one thing they can do is work on uniting more servers so that guilds don’t die off, cuz that kills the game for a ton of people…i’d know - i’ve gone through a server death before :frowning:

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No, I don’t know who he is.

Ahh, sorry then. He was a WoW youtuber/streamer that played the game at a pretty high level for a very long time. He interviewed Ion several times and was always a good middle man for discussion between the developers and the community.

The only streamer I ever heard of was Asmongold(sp?) I watched a video of his once on a suggestion from a friend. ONCE. After that my YouTube sidebar was filled with silly “Asmongold reacts” videos daily.

No way will you catch me watching that kind of crap ever again. I like my forums but no streamers, lol.

Thats fair. Preach was a very different type though. He doesn’t have that same type of character Asmon does. Very straightforward and to the point kind of guy

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I won’t hate on people that enjoy that type of content. Me, I get no entertainment out of watching other people talk about/play video games. I’d rather just play the game myself and occasionally drop thoughts on a forum.

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Because 9.1.5 will do absolutely nothing if the issue you are having is lack of content.
Catchup mechanics are well and good but should have been in 9.0.5 if not put into the game in beta.

Christ, i hate that I’m agreeing with a Gnome.

“It’s always been this way!” is a sure-fire way to tell someone has a terrible mindset. That applies to this post too.

I must have spent hours discussing one change alone: the account-wide ignore thing. That is something that affects the PUBLIC more than it does the private, and if you say that the guilds are dying, how better does the public stand now that once you get ignored(for ANY reason no matter how legitimate or illegitimate), you’re cut off completely? Blizzard has given up on trying to police both sides of the ignored and ignorer.

The “MM” is just fading fast away, making WoW more of an ORPG. Because we’re all too afraid to COMMUNICATE in ANY way, shape, or form, because we’d hear one wrong thing and it’s never again!

But then again, who isn’t right about those problems? Other than blizzard developers, almost everyone with half a brain sees the problems with their systems right from the start.

I’m not a brilliant man and it took me 15 minutes to tell my friends Azerithe gear is bad because of this, this and this. Everyone has been saying, from the very first day, what the problem is with covenants.

Beta forums is always full of people saying “system X will be bad because of a, b, c and d. Please change”. Blizzard happily listens to that feedback and do nothing. Sometimes they answer something in the lines of “We understand your concern, but we are pretty sure that you don’t know you understand the system yet because you haven’t actually played it on end-game, where they will fix themselves as you progress”. Then the system fails as predicted by everyone.

In the end they amount to about the same thing. Conduits are the thing that change the effect of your class abilities in SL. So is that your main complaint, just that they’re not tier sets? Because otherwise they’re just an upside, I see no downside.

The patch is meant for those that still play not to bring people back. 9.1.5 won’t bring anyone back 9.2 won’t either. The game is fundamentally in trouble with endless systems, boosting, and a push for the mythic elite play style.

The only hope WoW has is 10.0 to change nothing this expac will make huge amounts of players return.

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The only thing keeping me around is running old stuff to finally get Lord of the Reins…