So "Loser" Is "Abusive"?

I’m genuinely trying to understand what is and isn’t allowed in this game right now. I’ve been intentionally trying to be dialed in with my anger outbursts even though I have some disabilities that keep me from doing so. So I’ve resorted to just calling people losers when I’m frustrated. But apparently this constitutes “Abusive chat”? I’ve even tried to contact a GM to get more clarification on the matter and the wait time was nearly 6 days.

So basically I’m trying to understand, if others players are intentionally griefing you and your group, you’re supposed to be completely silent, take it, and not aim any amount of frustration towards them? I get it, maybe calling someone a loser isn’t exactly a nice thing to say but personally I wouldn’t classify it as “abusive” and to be frank I’ve been called significantly worse things in this game or seen worse words used in trade chat without any punishment. So I’m genuinely trying to understand what exactly is the rule now? Are players just supposed to remain silent even during extreme frustration?

Golden rule of thumb is if you have nothing nice to say better to say nothing at all.

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I have not heard of a disability where you need to type in “loser” and then press enter, sorry. But it is indeed abusive chat.

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This is basically your own answer to the question. If you know it isn’t a reasonable thing to say, then it’d be reasonable to report it as such.

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Someone else violating chat rules is not a license to violate them yourself.

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Ticket times are avwraging couple days at most 6 days is the oldest ticket in que a gm not gona tell youwhats ok to say or not if you want there policy im sure someone ca dig up the chat policy.

If you’re actively belittling people as you demonstrate you have been, then yes you will most likely be enjoying recurring sanctions taken against your account.

Report it when you see it. Don’t return fire.

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You are welcome to appeal, but GM’s generally do not answer questions like “Is this allowed?” They will point you to the Terms of Use.

If you want a direct answer to your question, yes. It is abusive. Is it the worst thing you can possibly say? Probably not, but it’s still not allowed.

Be silent and not aim frustration at them? Yes, that’s exactly what you should do. As for take it? No, you can always report players you think are breaking the rules.

But when you turn to insults in chat, though they may seem innocuous to you, they are not allowed.

Blizzard does seem to classify it that way. Their opinion is the only one that matters.

You don’t know that they weren’t punished. They simply weren’t punished in front of you, where you could see.

But someone else breaking the rules doesn’t mean you should. Report them, and move on. I do understand the difficulty of moving on at times, but that’s what you have to do.

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Well, yes. They are essentially polar opposites. If it’s not nice, it’s mean. If it’s mean, I don’t see how you can think it’s not abusive.

But you’re also very close to the entire point. Blizzard does not want abusive chat in this game, so you should play the game with that thought in mind.

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I do know they weren’t punished because Blizzard’s system tells you when someone is banned due to a report you made. Death threats, racial slurs, and often times just plain swearing go unpunished relatively often even when I do report them. Sure they’ll go on ignore until I log off but no action is taken. The common denominator I see is the system is automated so if you do something smaller more often you’re more likely to get punished vs someone lobbying a death threat once and moving on gets ignored by the system.

You don’t get to decide what others classify as abusive, any more than they can decide for you - except Blizzard. Because well, it’s their sandbox.

If you’re frustrated, that’s on you. Report people who you think are breaking the rules, whether they’re whispering you or whatever they’re doing. You don’t respond. Say whatever you want to your computer, vent it out verbally if you must. But there isn’t a single disability that forces your fingers to type out anything to another player because you’re not happy with a situation.

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Currently that is bugged.

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If it had been one instance of that - I doubt you would have been reported.

Tossing in parasite, tape worm, dumb, idiots and recommending your teammates uninstall their game… yeah, that’s harassment.

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I’m not 100% certain, but I’m not sure they send those anymore. I haven’t seen them in many months myself.

But either way, what happens or doesn’t happen to others has zero bearing on your issue. Your language was reported, and you received an account actin for it.

You are welcome to appeal the decision, and perhaps it will be removed. Going forward, you will want to refrain from insulting other players, even in a way you find acceptable, even for reasons you think are valid, even if they are getting away with breaking the rules themselves.

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For some reason it’s hit or miss if you get those notices. I will also add in that you don’t know that they were banned, suspended or silenced. You know that your report merited some action against a person.

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I honestly don’t appreciate people using these blanket terms that there isn’t a disability that causes emotional outbursts of anger. There certainly are and while I’m not comfortable disclosing mine a google search can outline several. Also, I’ve asked Blizzard for the ability to mute myself when I’m having a bad episode but it’s been met with “we can’t do that”. However, once the situation has happened it seems fine to mute the account so I’m confused.

Sure. But having such a condition does not mean you don’t have to follow the rules. This is where it’s on you to learn to handle situations differently.

Clearly, the insulting path is not working out for you, both in terms of staying in-game and getting others to stop “griefing” you. So, take some time to think of a different tactic that may be more successful on both fronts.

You’re not confused. You’re looking for a loophole to slip through.

Yes, when you break the rules, your account can and will be actioned. There is no scenario where it’s acceptable to break the rules.

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You used the term first as it being the reason or at least part of the reason you felt the need to speak to that player to begin with. There are plenty of disabilities that allow for bursts of anger. I’m only saying there isn’t a single disability that forces you to express it by typing it out. There are other ways to channel that anger and frustration.

Scream at your computer all that you want. Tear up some paper. Get out in a way that will not put you or your account at risk.

Think of it this way. If you want to argue that you can’t scream at your computer due to knowing it will get you in trouble with roommates/housemates/neighbors for disturbing them? That same mentality that you can’t type it out so that you don’t disturb another person should follow through. It’s the exact same thing, just a different medium.

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If you read the blue post above loser wasnt the only thing you said. And if you continue down that road the punishments get worse.

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Mayhaps redirect your frustration by saying it out loud and not typing it in?

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