Seems it’s impossible to click chains for any group members as I pull mobs to a chains,… put a world marker on the chains… then say in chat “click the chains”…
The effect of chains was changed to stun the mobs and increase your dmg to them, padding your precious dps meters…
But not sure why I’m still expecting the wow “community” to perform simple tasks by 2024, in DF…
more often what happens in my groups is: dps is told to do chains, goes in to do them, explodes
With it only being one person who can do it now, they probably think someone else will do it. Plus, it is scary in there. I have clicked it a few times as a healer but man I click a defensive and hold my breath lol.
It’s not scary. What’s scary is when I’m sitting next to a chains with a raidmarker expecting a aoe stun from chains and am literally soloing these fort week mobs wondering if I need an extra defensive instead…
People should be doing the series of simple tasks instead of not participating. Not sure why this needs to be said.
Maybe not scary for a tank, but risky as a clothie or other squishy character.
It’s not though- if your argument is genuine, you’re spooking yourselves.
All you have to do is:
a) the chains mechanic
b) not stand in the projected swirly that stuns you (if that’s even a thing in S4)
If you want to be really keen, interrupt Lahar, but as a tank I’m always on that unless someone else beats me to it…
People up in +8 looking for the best gear, but performing like someone I wouldn’t want to push content with.
Not arguing, just giving possible reasons why people aren’t doing chains; miscommunication(language barrier included), thinking others have it, worried about dying.
I haven’t pugged much this season and have gotten the chains on my healers and been fine in groups with people I know and am in discord with. I do need to work on not getting impaled though lol. 
I believe you’re being genuine, but the answer to getting spooked in a dungeon, let alone a dungeon that will give you the best possible gear avail- the answer is not doing nothing with the mechanic. Nobody wants to play with someone who afks when they perceive a tough pull, especially when it’s not.
Probably not afk’ing, just panicking. Hopefully people will get better as the season goes on. 
We had Nelth for an entire season a few months ago. Nothing to learn. It’s been nurfed.
However, if someone had the wherewithal to avoid DF up until now, 
if you don’t know the dungeon, don’t queue a +8 for the max gear
Idk if this has been said yet, but chains are a single use, and do an insane amount of damage to the player holding them. The stun duration is relatively short given the amount of damage amp you get from it, they are nothing like old chains.
It’s best done, imo, by the tank during the pull since you’re able to tank the majority of the damage, or by a DPS who gets healer attention as to not die to the DoT.
Preach this to every person ever
If you don’t know the dungeon, don’t sign-up to an 18-20 equivalent expecting to get carried. You cannot face tank the dungeon, you will brick the key.
https://i.imgur.com/0N7fWQu.pngAgain, you don’t know what you’re talking about. We can all click a diff chain for 5, 10, 15secs+ of stun time and +dmg.
Learn the dungeon before giving bad advice. Don’t speak on behalf of other people in addition to you who do not know what they are doing.
Literally just watch a guide.
Everyone in this thread knows people aren’t using the chains because they don’t know what they’re doing, not because the negligible dot tick that is on you for literally one(1) second exists.
idk if you thought using my language against me as some sort of baseless insult was clever or appropriate, but it was not.
It would have been flattering if you knew what you were talking about, though.
Man… You chose the worst day to be both stupid and wrong.
I wasn’t being rude, I was adding to the conversation, and I was agreeing with your statement. There are guides on English context clues, you can look them up if you’re curious about how the language works, though I recommend an IQ above ambient room temperature first.
You’ll figure that out eventually, probably.
Anyway, back on topic.
Here’s a cool little screenshot, of my Details (it’s the damage meter) from an in-game run of a +7 Neltharus. Unless there’s some weird bug that I’m not aware of that is causing me to both take increased damage from, as well as log that increased damage into the combat log (very unlikely), it seems you’re actually entirely wrong despite thinking you’re somehow right about it.
https://imgur.com/a/YbQRr1D
Grabbing the chain was ~380k per tick, which across 3 ticks + my mitigation adds up to almost 1m self-taken damage just to drag a chain into some adds.
I have 896k HP
You can also see my Evoker with the same chains damage taken, so again unless it’s a weird bug that I don’t know about, it seems you’re actually completely wrong and thus proven wrong.
That stings…
Anyways, let’s continue.
You’re not using the desktop addon to track your route or log your dungeons, which shows that you’re clearly incompetent when it comes to running numbers (which is obvious, don’t worry), so I can’t really go look at that.
However, I can just look at literally any dungeon you’ve done that someone else has logged and get a feeling for the type of player you are.
I wasn’t surprised by anything I found. You play how you act, and honestly you wouldn’t even know what I’m talking about because even if I showed you how to find these logs (of you), you wouldn’t know what to do with them anyways.
It was actually me supporting what you said, because I think the clap emojis are a cool way of displaying emotion and punctuation.
Thank you, I trust you’ll find my above statements to be very truthful, and I hope you’re able to learn from them.
Cheers.
I’m not reading any of that. See my pic. It’s not too late to gracefully accept all this brand new education I’ve bestowed unto you, and just do better (or is it?).
You’re just supporting my statements then, which is fine, I wouldn’t expect you to understand any of it anyways.
It’s mostly directed at anyone who comes into this thread later who, against their better knowledge, may accidentally see your misinformation as anything other than that, and perform just as poorly as you do as a result.
I hope my closing statements, especially the ones where I tell you that you’re wrong, carry the same weight and meaning that I intended when I wrote them so that everyone may grow and learn from this.
People normally charge to be a clown, but you’re doing it for free.
Chains tick for about 400k per, if there’s hunter leaps still going out or people are still kinda mid geared I can get them being scared. Typically if I’m going to do chain I’m waiting for the hunters to be on cd and then the tank to do some sort of AoE CC to buy time, typically a blinding sleet or fear sigil.
The second big chain pull near 2nd boss is scarier because the trainees all have frontals. I’m definitely waiting for an AoE CC there.
Careful, Hpelli, you’re going to call down the wrath of the single-digit, gray parsing DK with a main-character complex.
https://imgur.com/a/gzGakEC
Here’s an imgur link to support your statement too, this is from the +7 I did where I took 309k (through mitigation) while being leapt on. I haven’t gone much higher than that for this dungeon, so I can’t speak to higher levels.
Absolutely support the hard CC suggestions, though. Chains are far more risk/reward driven compared to where they used to be.
Very true, however I feel like people didn’t start running chains for a decent amount of weeks though. I didn’t start to see them being a thing for a while at least.
Also, a lot of keys are totally doable without using a single one of them.
And, like Hpellipsis said, they hurt.
i think there was something up with them early s2 that made them not worth
my memory is super fuzzy though
That means you stood in a projected swirly. Not the energy you’re trying to exude compared to your other comments I imagine.