Avoiding guards has been clearly ruled by Blizzard to be an abuse of terrain, killing a player who is in the open world is not a bug/exploit.
Using or exploiting errors in design
I’d say that having places where you can’t get to your corpse is a design error, and exploiting that is against the ToS. You say I’d have to prove “they were doing it intently,” but this isn’t a defense against breaking the rules. Ignorance of the rules doesn’t mean you are exempt from them, magically.
No but assuming that it was their intent to cause an issue they didn’t know about would occur as a result of your death is a stretch.
You’re ignoring what can be proven, not what you feel should be justified.
Your argument is slowly turning into “I died they should pay” rather than listening to what’s being said.
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Actually no. Intent does not have to be proved at all when the circumstances are clear. It’s up to gm’s to decide whether the result is what was intended, not players who are always going to try to make lame excuses.
I doubt anything will come of it, but go ahead and report it. Let gm’s decide.
Wait, how is it an exploit though? Pvp problems have pvp solutions right? Just kill the guards?
That is essentially how you sound when you dismiss a post like what the OP said. You literally made 0 effort to look at the situation.
Thats super cool that Blizzard has ruled it as an abuse of terrain. How do you think they rule anything? Literally situations like this. If you think what the OP described is just “killing a player in the open world” then you are absolutely dense. Avoiding guards and killing people is still just “killing a player in the open world”.
What makes both of these an issue is how the game is SUPPOSED to function, and whether players are manipulating that or not. In the case of avoiding guards, players intentionally place themselves in a spot that ignores game mechanics / guards.
In what the OP stated, when you normally die in the game, you are supposed to be able to res at your body. If you can’t res at your body then the game is clearly NOT working as intended. If a player knowingly does this to another player, they are exploiting the games functionality.
Every PvP server is super Horde dominated so any time alliance players are able to slaughter Horde I’m all for it.
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So you think they just see a ticket, say “Eh, let’s wing it”, flip a coin and decide whether to do something or not?
They check logs man. If they aren’t discussing something of this nature like fools in the chat then they aren’t going to do anything.
If there’s no previous history of people exploiting this and causing grief they aren’t going to do anything.
You don’t understand the difference between Blizzard saying “you can’t go ontop of buildings to avoid guards” and just killing a player in a tunnel thats your problem.
You’re not addressing a single thing I’ve said. Intent is irrelevant. What can be proven is in the logs.
My argument has never been “I died they should pay,” but nice try at your strawman.
Its obvioulsy not “just killing a player in a tunnel” anymore than it is “Just killing a player in gadgetzan”. You are trying to change what it is entirely because you think it makes a point but it literally just shows you don’t know how to read and have no understanding of the game.
What building did they jump on to kill him in said tunnel?
no… pvp happened on pvp server
Every exploit starts somewhere. Once one person figures it out then others will do it. On the flip side, if its not actually an exploit and it was more of a one time bug then nothing will come of it and all will return to normal. Thats how we figure these things out.
You’re just whining at this point.
And I’ve responded to everything you said.
You constantly keep going to the conclusion that, because you feel it is, it’s reportable.
Report the crap and move on. Don’t come to the forums if you dont like the answers.
You can enter the dungeon at the front entrance and run to your body. There’s no way in the world they will get in trouble because you don’t want to walk a long way.
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So exploits can only involve buildings?.. What is your point? Have you literally just read nothing and just saying whatever you want?
See? What did I say? You’re already making up lame excuses and trying to put words in my mouth.
The guy asked if it was reportable. Yes, it is. In fact, anything is reportable. Gm’s will decide whether what happened was an offense or not.
It doesn’t matter if there’s a long history of an exploit, or if it’s something players only recently discovered and started to take advantage of.
There’s a reason you’re trying to convince him not to report.
I never told him not to post little mama.
All I said was it doesn’t sound reportable.
Its not an exploit to kill a player in a tunnel.
The problem here is instances existing on PVP servers. They shouldn’t.
All dungeons should be converted to open world zones for PVP servers.