Again with the denial. You can bet if it were reversed and alliance started at lumber mill and horde started at the retail location, horde would be crying too.
I can only share my experience playing alliance and I’ve been in many games alliance started off strong but losing shgy is game changing for alliance.
Give me one good reason why one faction should start closer to enemy objectives than the other.
Its hard to judge map balance if a significant portion of your team is afk. Conversations are better when people don’t just jump from topic to topic.
They are also better with someone who doesn’t try to avoid the actual issue by fabricating stats. Gonna give me that reason I asked for or dance around it with made up stats?
Like I said, 10 people being afk didn’t seem unreasonable. Does it?
Give me one good reason that one faction should start closer to enemy objectives than the other. Save your excuses for another thread and answer that simple request.
Ah, so I ask you if my numbers seem bad, then you just change topics again.
You got nothing apparently. There is no good reason.
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Its hard to judge map balance when a significant part of your team is AFK.
You brought in afks into the discussion when the actual topic is the fairness of the horde cave. Stop trying to avoid the actual issue. I’ve asked multiple times for one good reason why one faction should start closer to enemy objectives then the other and you’ve dodged it ever single time. The only conclusion I can come to is that you’ve got nothing.
It is hard to discuss balance when your team is AFK.
If alliance start 40 strong and that really does happen (are you with me so far?) why should one faction start closer to enemy objectives than the other? That simple request has nothing to do with players but map layout.
We don’t actually know if that is a problem or not. We have not seen it play out. Maybe it is a problem, maybe it isn’t. We don’t know because how bad the AFKing has been.
Obviously you’re not open to an honest discussion and simply going to dodge. Deep denial.
I’m not asking you how many players reach stone hearth I’m asking you for a reason that the map is set up so that one faction is closer to enemy objectives than the other. It’s a simple map layout question.
You’re talking about a hypothetical. The Alliance are not playing with full 40 man teams, and even in your hypothetical you admit that
I understand you really want me to answer you extremely loaded question. But we honestly have no idea how the map plays out with even teams.
I understand you’re doing everything you can to dance around the question, but if you think alliance never start 40 strong, you’re wrong. Sadly, you don’t seem capable of having an honest discussion about the actual map layout.
The question isn’t worth answering until we fix the AFK problem first…since we have no idea how the map plays if both sides are playing with full teams.
Because its hard to judge map balance when a significant part of your team is AFK.
Perhaps they start with 40 people, but you said yourself they concede basically instantly if they have a single poor fight.
Just another dodge. Until you respond to the actual question posed to you, I’m done responding to you.
I am just trying to get you to admit once, that it is hard to talk about map balance when teams are uneven. You keep dodging back to your loaded gotcha-question over and over.
I have answered that question like 7 times now, I am sorry its not the answer you want to hear though.
Because its hard to talk about map balance when your team is AFK.
I want specific parts of vanilla but I want AV to change to my favorite version, could we alos allow updated talents to both be how they were on each patch but also fix the balancing so I can play different specs other than the meta? Could we also make some raid bosses harder to allow for a more up to date raiding experience. While you are there could you add dual spec, I hate paying to change the type of character I am. While you making those changes could you look into adding more content to do between raiding?
Why cant they make the Vanilla I WANT
Lets be fair though, the version of AV we did get was the one no one wanted.