It’s denied because the Horde players were saying it’s impossible for them to premade. The very existence of Horde premades and all this issues coming to ligh exposes how childish it was to cry about Alliance premades and setup this current state with the help of blizzard where it’s impossible to win as a pug.
Yet they want more “fixes” for Alliance only.
I agree.
Though it’s important that the groups be able to include a cross realm population, because some of the smaller servers probably can not field a full team.
I have not heard of such a team or such a way for the Horde to form premades. If it were possible at all, there is no way it would not be as ubiquitous as Alliance premades.
However, I am more than open to seeing evidence or at least a plausible method.
you’re actually the first person ive seen put a tldr at the beginning. I appreciate this
Show me a screenshot, or a conversation of it happening and I will believe you.
But just because the horde can do it does not make it okay or intended. It is still an exploit if one side does it or the other.
Glad to hear you are having a much better time of it.
Keep up the good fight!
Doesn’t matter. Blizzard won’t listen regardless.
I been reporting an average of 5+ horde players a game terrain exploiting. Nothing will happen. Not until Alliance can rush drek and terrain exploit into the Horde base. That’s when Blizzard will rush to put out some fixes.
I mean, show me the proof of Horde premades.
Edit: Also, they can jump up the frozen waterfall. You just dont need to because its simply easier to run there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcQtf0LePpw
the average horde and alliance pvpers have different goals, and nothing shows this quite like AV. the more serious pvpers tend to go horde, so naturally there are a lot more people alli side who are just there to do whatver. this was always the trade off before though, horde had longer queues but won more often, allis had instant queues and could premade to offset the losses. all this got turned on it’s head now though. i wonder why.
Modern gamers in a nutshell it sounds like.
New servers with:
Blizzard - we are willing to give you a Do-Over so you can keep our subs and probably bring back a bunch who left. New servers always bring back our foolish hopes.
Timelocked like a fresh classic server? Or all the content open until then. If its time locked then you cannot have any transfers to that server from ones outside that “battlegroup”
100% agree
Yeah no Alliance pugs are going to make it that far. Let’s be real and getting into the Horde is far harder than the Alliance area. Let’s also not forget the hills create a massive death trap for alliance because horde can scale them and attack without worrying about melee getting to them.
This whole thing is a sham.
Feel free to keep moving those goalposts. I am not saying i agree with being able to wall jump into bases, I actually can see strong arguments on both sides.
But when you say
And then say that it doesn’t count when you actually can do exactly that…its the definition of moving the goalposts.
Not in the same way. This is why this discussion is absolutely pointless. Most games have horde exploiting into Alliance base, how many damn games do you see Alliance doing this?
There’s no comparison to be made because 1. Alliance rarely do this if at all compared to Horde exploiters and 2. No pugs are functional enough to even be able to try this.
You make it sound like it’s even when it’s not even close.
Because you don’t need to wall jump because the Horde base is so stupidly easy to get through. But I doubt if anything could ever possibly change your mind if you’re arguing with the presupposition that the Devs have a Horde bias instead of trying to make changes for the health of their game.
If they were interested in the health of the game they would have fixed these issues instead of this current “fix” that’s done nothing but make things worse.
I agree, i miss Wpvp and getting to know the players of the opposite faction, crossrealm is what is causing these premades. I also dislike the current version on AV.
I am sure they’re trying. The current Alliance premade method is pretty obtuse and I doubt anyone could have predicted this particular method of breaking the system. If they thought wall jumping was an issue, I am sure its a trivial fix. If its an issue, I am not sure it is though…both sides are pretty compelling.