Yes, that is what we are saying. With a side of:
NoT mY fAuLt YoU cHoSe ZuG zUg.
It’s from your rune of the guard captain. Easy thing to forget, we’ll allow it.
Yup, 95% win rate on horde side, they are just AV gods.
Wsg/AB are 50/50 I wonder why horde aren’t so good at those bgs??
It’s almost like there’s something different with AV that might make it unfair, not sure what could be getting them that 95% win rate in just THAT BG???
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while yes the av map is tilted heavily to the horde , the current state of av is because the alliance pvpers who care about honor per hour have all migrated to the other bgs due to blizzard killing premades for the alliance.
we are left with the dregs.
if things were different and we had premades to funnel the alliance who want to win and not afk we would have a fighting chance.
now we dont.
I know quite well there is a teleport trinket. BOTH sides have one, and it takes you to a single point on the map. But the horde one does not have the capability to teleport wherever they wish on the map at any given time they choose. The horde trinket does not have a "teleport from SH to SF/IB/FW button. I was being sarcastic. Many alliance claim they do not try certain things because horde prevents them, as if horde can literally be everywhere at once.
The seesaw is only “tilted heavily to the horde” in the sense that alliance got off of their end of the seesaw.
did you forget the horde ability to be at IBGY choke right away from their spawn
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Did you miss the repeated times I have stated that the cave respawn mechanic needs revamped?
PS: You do not spawn back at the cave if you have SHGY, or SF, or anything else north of it (if you die up north… you know, where the horde typically tend to be)
Only a casual would say such a thing.
I don’t think Horde necessarily wanted to play against doormats (barring Premade Alliance groups) but that’s very much the situation that’s evolved in Classic.
Burning Crusade will be dramatically worse.
You alliance keep throwing out the “50/50” win rate in Wsg/AB thing while completely ignoring the context that a lot of those wins are attributed to premades stomping on pugs.
Lets see what the ACTUAL numbers are on pug vs pug games, or premade vs premade games.
Not to mention theres a big difference between a bg with 40 random people of varying levels from 51-60 that are largely incentivized to be there for rep and pve gear as opposed to a small scale 10v10 or 15v15 map that is filled with lvl 60 people whos main incentive is to gain honor and win the game.
The type of players on alliance that are actual pvp enthusiasts and/or rankers have no reason to be in AV and they stay in wsg/ab where games are quick and efficient for gaining honor
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All we can share is anecdotal and you know that. If players feel good about their WSG and AB win rates pug vs pug, that’s a good indicator that those bgs are not as skewed as AV.
AV is a dumpster fire and it’s not going to get any better. That’s a shame.
No they’re not, my win rate in WSG/AB in pug vs pug was around ~50%.
Also ignoring the context of the type of alliance playing wsg/ab as apposed to the ones queueing into AV
The people in those bgs are there to pvp and win, the people in AV are primarily there to gain some kind of pve related reward
And there’s a reason why alliance who want to win are avoiding AV, it’s not because the horde are just magically better in AV for some reason.
Yeah, because even in a best cade scenario a game of av takes 20 30 mins, wheras in wsg/ab games are often over in 7 to 15 mins and they can premade to guarantee faster games
There is a clear incentive for alliance looking for pvp and or honor to do anything but AV
That leaves you with afkers and rep farmers in AV
If alliance were able to get a comparable win ratio to WSG/AB in AV you’d see a lot more alliance playing to win just to avoid the premades in the other two BG’s.
The alliance made it so and it’s up to them to fix it.
THEY DID get wins in AV with premades…until they got nerfed to hell and back due to yellow journalism at worst and hyped up reporting at best on the boards.
The playerbase wound up making a nuclear wasteland in AV and I for one am highly disappointed.
Premades that were never intended to be possible in the first place against teams that couldn’t do the same
“We won by cheating and blizzard took it away, so unfair”
Ill be honest here because the others arent.
Its awful.
While pally pulls were incredibly demoralizing, at least the game popped and wsg was a pug v pug what we always wanted paradise.
Thays been ruined completely and consequently i never play on this character anymore. I switched to ally for the first time in 15 years and love it. Its like being horde in vsnilla as the minority faction.
But honestly, for horde, it killed the game for casuals. I gave up ranking at 8 -9 and am about to hit 11 as ally and its been far less painful. Waiting that long for a battle ground to pop in unbearable. The horde will tell you “rawr we love it” but the chat is different. They hate it and they are angry.
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