No it’s not. How many players have you seen, that you were so sure were bots, that you would have permabanned instantly if able, that weren’t even botting? How do you know anything? At all?
How would you suggest Blizzard find these botters and ban them? Maybe a reporting system? Oh wait, we already have that.
It kinda feels like you are.
Well your dealing with feelings and im dealing with facts. So theres that. Plz continue to bump the thread though. Thanks.
They announce that there has been a bot ban wave. No one can see even a temporary effect. I think they are spending less (or no) money on the sort of sophisticated programming needed to track down and scan for bots, and more on automatic broad banning based on loose correlations.
Realistically, Blizzard has zero incentive to ban bots. Sure, you’re unhappy. But the existence of armies of bots farming resources depresses the market cost of mats to the point where players must buy token to cover the (increasingly inflated) costs of playing the game that are set by blizzard, thus normalizing the injection of microtransactions into player/player interactions.
That’s interesting cause it kinda seems like you’re dealing in hyperbole.
So you don’t actually have any kind of input or suggestions and this thread merely exists to exist? Kinda seems like trolling now, which is a flaggable offense.
Are you?
Banning a bot immediately just tells the bot makers to improve the bot. The will always improve the bot and bliz learns nothing. Banning in waves every few months allows them to get rid of most of the bots, implement a security patch killing those particular bots. But, yes, the bot creators will eventually find a way around it and it starts again.
But there is the added bonus of charge backs against bot creators.
It is an arms race. It has always been and arms race. It will always be an arms race.
I think there is tho. Ban them, they rebuy the game…more money! Obviously they cant do this to often or they will stop buying the game…but I digress…
Anyways something should be done. Anything.
Private servers dont have these issues. They have no problems detecting and banning bots. But a million dollar company just cant keep up? Nah man…BS.
Yeah, that’s fair. It isn’t a complete loss for Blizzard. If people can’t reliably sell items on the AH to buy high end gold wasting items, then a lot of people will just end up turning to tokens, as I’m sure they do.
SE says the same thing, but I think it’s just PR.
You have no idea how much money bots cost Blizzard. The logic that Blizzard allows them to exist because they purchase the game or a sub is a fallacy.
No they won’t.
What would you suggest? You still have suggested nothing at all.
Private servers don’t have anywhere near the same population or money making potential as live servers do.
Thats a pretty accurate meme!
Every time I’ve reported botting suspicions, I’ve always gotten a follow up saying thank you and action has been taking. Whether or not something actually happened - who knows, but I have some faith.
Playing at a high level requires frequent interaction with crafters. And lots of consumables. Whenever someone posts complaining about how expensive it is to play high end content now, there are many posters who respond that they should just swipe more often, like multiple times weekly.
I’ve said this in the past, and every time I brought up things like level 1’s spamming RMT carries in trade chat, I was told that there is no point in banning these bots, because they will just be back tomorrow. Or that the same bot you have been seeing spamming RMT carries and links to RMT websites 24/7 is actually banned daily and replaced immediately by another bot with exactly the same name, and reposts the exact same ads. So you see, there’s no reason to deal with bots, according to these supporters of blizzard who will make up any rationalization why nothing should change, because Blizzard is helpless.
I hate to state the obvious, but that is a automatic / copy paste response. Everyone gets that. But when I look in zak cavern, its bot city. Everywhere.
My server is fairly dead so I went to Thrall. Wow its even worse there. Literal guilds of botters just running rampant.
It has gotten pretty bad across the board.
feel free to hang out in the CS forum to prove yourself wrong.
Correct - I am super aware its an automatic response - like 99% of bliz communication is such. Like I said, whether or not something has actually happened, eh, at least I have a tiny bit of faith - as you said, its a large problem - its not going to be solved over night.
Thrall is one of the highest population servers, so it stands to reason it would have a lot of bots.
How do you know they’re all botters? What information on that do you have? If you believe there are guilds with entire rosters of bots, have you reported them?
Yes. It’s a form email intended to encourage players to continue reporting, because they feel they are getting a response that helps solve the problem.
It would be an invasion of privacy for them to reveal what happened to which account you reported. And realistically, I have receive that email within a very short time of reporting someone, far less time than it would take to put that report in queue and eventually investigate. I hardly report anyone, so I can tell how long it took to trigger that email.
The bots that are farming items that can be sold cross-server can be on any server. So it stands to reason they will be doing most of their farming on slow servers where they are less likely to be seen and reported.
This not a new problem. This issue has been discussed to death. I know its beating a deadhorse. I get that.
Regardless it just seems like blizz has thrown in the towel. I dont know if its apathy, or they are truly outmatched, or what the issue is. I just want it solved. And its solved by banning the bots. That simple. There are no new solutions to this problem. Just. Ban. Them.
Well derrrr how do you detect them derrrrr. Same way they always have. Get a few people on the problem per server. People that actually care about the integrity of the game. And get to work.