So finally Elemental is worse than 11.0.5

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strong to me = feral + sp

ele isnt anywhere near that level so

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Yeah not on NA

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strong to me = feral + sp

ele isnt anywhere near that level so

This is the answer.

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What is wrong about this statement? It’s middle of the pack at best in solo shuffle, absolute dog tier in blitz and garbage in 2s and 3s. That’s not exactly a shining performance.

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What? Enhance is very good RN and it’s biggest “weakness” is that warrior isnt as strong so it cant just W key as turbo XD

True - probably the worst after the rdruid and mw changes that look a lot like buffs, but it’s not like it’s unplayably bad and it’s also getting another buff tuesday.

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Turby gonna clobber people on Tuesday. :dracthyr_yay_animated:

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Not true at all lol.

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Jamie and Joefernandez were playing turbo today and losing to 2100s. They literally couldn’t connect on anything and spent the whole match dead every game.

Even the games they did win they very definitely “lost” because my god did it look not even remotely fun and they spent the whole game mad as hell.

Warrior doing more damage isn’t gonna change the fact that neither enhance nor warrior can get any amount of uptime on meta specs right now.

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Was expecting this many nerfs for feral.

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While I do find it laughable how hard they went at ele compared to something like feral, I think ele is still going to be fine. (and ascend deserved to be gutted)

Not like they nerfed earth shock. do kind of find it funny they decided to soft rework ele and screwed it up so bad they had to essentially gut all of their own changes, like may as well go back at this point.

They need to stop buffing lightning bolt like it matters tho, pretty sure they do it for a giggle, same with slam buffs.

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Spot the prepatch ele in 1 simple try lmao.

Just script like the rest of the scumbag eles bro

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The post it again as your math doesn’t work. I heard rumors that in USA average guy is bad at math but I thought it’s a myth.

If you read the talent “Mountains will Fall” that makes Earth Shock overload you will see that it does for 50% of the overload damage. That with Echo Chamber is 35%. 50% of 35% is 17,5%. No matter how hard you try average Earth Shock won’t hit harder than 200 k. These 500 k ones are on Ascendance only when Earth Shock crits. So stop spreading fairy tales. What will be next? Did you see dragon or a flying saucer?

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i guess ye

i still dunno wat comp they would run with ele that would beat feral sp tho

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I played more than 20 games today and average Earth Shock overload is 186 k…

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The worst part is they put a ton of changes into pve. Ele went from middle of the pack to #6 dps, and will now probably go to the bottom of the pack. It’s insane whiplash for the pve crowd and they’re very angry about it.

As for pvp - ele will prob have fine sustain, but the lack of kill pressure is the issue. These nerfs amount to a -24% single target dmg nerf, which is wild. I expected that kind of heavy handed approach to feral, but feral got marginal (and frankly a reasonable start) set of changes.

Yes enhance pumps big time, but it can’t ever connect to anything. That’s the key issue with the spec. Aside from warrior and rogue pretty much everyone is semi-ranged.

Warrior getting big buffs tuesday, so turbo will probably go up a bit. Doesn’t change what I said to Kennie: it’s a miserable comp to play (also I hate fistweaving MW coming back :nauseated_face: ). Enhance does an insane amount of damage, but it struggles to connect. This game is basically pve, if you cannot maintain uptime (unless you’re rogue mage) it’s not worth it.

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Ele will still flavor blast your goldfish

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Yeah they ate a whopping 24% nerf in single target in PVE. A lot of that is gonna carry over to arena dps too on top of the gigga ascendance nerf in PVP.

Ele is very likely deadge on Tuesday.

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perfect timing for me to level and start playing this spec again

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Yeah, a huge part of the insanely broken damage was the ascendance bug, especially when paired with aftershock and DRE.

I think that you’ll go back to using surge of power and earthshock and that should help with mobility and playstyle and it wont be AS bad, and the aoe nerfs are definitely needed for M+, but I have concerns that the nerfs will disproportionately impact pvp, ESPECIALLY with the loss of skybreakers.

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Where are you seeing this?

The main ele shaman simc writer and theory crafter has much lower numbers and also thinks the nerfs will be even smaller with a different build.