Its just another strawman argument beceuse they cant actually dispute the actual arguments agaist rdf.
Here’s you telling someone they can play Retail if they want RDF:
Here’s Ion Hazzikostas telling you to play Retail if you want RDF:
No one can.
Same reason you can’t dispute the arguments to include RDF.
They are all opinion based.
One thing is for certain tho, RDF would 100% increase the population of players doing dungeons at all levels. More dungeons at all levels would be done, without a doubt.
I don’t think even you would be foolish enough to try and dispute that
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RDF being in Wrath isn’t an opinion 
Which is why I always said authenticity should be the guiding principle for Classic. It ignores all bias. You can’t please everyone, but you can make the game authentic.
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To be honest that’s kind of the Crux of the argument and no matter what people’s anecdotal evidence or bias is either for or against rdf the fact of the matter is with it in the game I’m willing to bet 50 times more people do dungeons because of it.
And to be honest that’s all that matters.
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Well, Blizz has decided that doing no dungeons is better than doing tons of dungeons with players from other servers.
Which obviously makes no sense. Their removal of RDF has nothing to do with social connections, or their silly Pillars that they ignore all the time with other changes. There’s another reason. Whatever it is…it just sucks they put that above the good of the game, authenticity, and what the players want. Options are good and the anti-rdf trolls have no argument. That’s clear, since they can keep forming groups however they want even with RDF in the game. So really it’s just about gatekeeping.
Well, and the fact that this is the WoW forums and when people take a stance they will defend that stance to the death, completely unwilling to even question their own beliefs. I say that as someone who was anti-rdf but took a step back and really thought things through, reassessed my thoughts, and realized I was wrong. And when you do have an open mind and admit you were wrong…trolls try to criticize you for it. Which I find hysterical.
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What’s truly remarkable about how stupid Blizzard is is the fact they added JJ to get people leveling again and out in the world to level solo.
Yet they removed the feature that gets people into dungeons to level in groups and have a chance to be social because you’re in a dungeon with 4 others…
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Enabling JJ requires nothing on their part. Actually getting RDF to work correctly might actually take a little development time. And flies in the face of their beloved upcoming Mythic dungeons. And their egos will never allow that.
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Oh for sure, I thought it was all about money before, which is why it wasn’t put in.
It wasn’t as profitable in the game as it was out of the game.
Rdf will never hit wotlk classic.
I will also never do another dungeon because of it.
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is it fair to say that even Ion can be wrong? is it a distinct possibility he could be wrong about this statement? I just want to point out. in 3-4 years we’re probably gonna see the mist relaunch. and if you continue with those RDF bs you’re gonna have less of a player base in Mist than wrath. because you know that those idiots in mist mainly grinded the LFRs for their Legendary quest chains. they used normal heroic and LFR for that crap. and yes people used their weekly lock outs to knock out their main raids and LFR raids to get extra chances at them both sets of ToT legendary items.
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Wrath had RDF and wrath players wanting wrath features is not unusual.
If you wanna play WoW with no RDF Classic exists, as Vanilla didn’t have RDF.
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It’s so sad you have to explain that to some people.
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I think the WoW Classic devs made a very poor, out of touch decision by excluding RDF. I linked this clip as a response to Zaalg telling people to report posts that suggest people play Retail if they want RDF. No one is going to be suspended for echoing the same sentiment that WoW’s Game Director did in that video.
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Once ICC is raidable, you have an argument for that. Until then, its more authentic to not have it.
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Would RDF in your opinion increase dungeon participation??
Would there be more people doing dungeons if rdf was in the game?
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Increase the number of dungeons people do yes, but it will likely reduce what social behavior is still left in classic even further.
It would increase socialization because more people would be playing more often. People leveling would actually be playing with other players instead of solo questing like they do now.
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Standing in a large crowd not saying a word isnt being social.
Getting into groups = / = socializing.
Rdf reduces the incentives players gave to be social because chances are the other group members will be from another realm, which removes any benifit of making a social connection with them. Cant trade with them, cant intentionally regroup with them, cant even pass them in dalaran and recognize them.
Rdf increases the dungeons participation. It does not increase socialization. Im willing to admit facts that dont support the anti rdf stance here. Are you willing to admit when a anti rdf fact is correct as well?
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You have never cared about any facts.
I’m not even willing to think about what you posted knowing your past habitual lying on this forum.
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Im not asking for your strawman, i asked you if it would increase the amount of participation in dungeons of all level ranges.
We both know the answer to that is a massive yes and thats all that matters, everything else is speculation and opinion.
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