So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

Ah, but there is the key Mr. Smartypants. Have I used said misrepresentation as an argument to you?

No, I have not, as a matter of fact, I have not even responded to you, nor have I used any of what I said against any of your statements.

You cannot claim a strawman response. All I have done is create a sarcastic reply to a completely different person’s also sarcastic response. We have at no time claimed any of it is a mainstream belief or fact and then used them as evidence against any of your points.

As I said, you have no idea what Strawman means.

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Retail exists, people seem to forget that.

You intentionally misrepresented my circumstances to discredit my stance on rdf. So…

Add it to the list of words he knows but doesn’t know the meaning up, it’s like watching a baby learn to talk in reverse.

Strawman
Min Max
Lobby Game
Bots
Socialization
Pay to Win

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I have not yet seen someone making a social connection through this tool that blizzard promised that it will make “social connections.”

Also what is a different between queuing up on RDF and listing yourself on the LFG tool and getting randomly invited with no prior communication?

Your rose tinted goggles is fogging up… Too much… I suggest taking them off.

Some people and including me keep saying this to you, Lack of RDF in past three years of Classic has not undone the things you and your side complained about RDF.

The amount of dungeons I have ran throughout Classic have been mostly slient, we do the dungeon, complete it and everyone in that run goes on their own seperate way.

Most people form social connections through a Discord server that is linked to a specific WoW server, not even in game anymore.

Is there any more talking points as to why RDF is bad?

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This hurt socialization more than RDF ever could, It’s why retail chats are a ghost town.

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Agreed. Ban discord. Efficiency isn’t fun and it feels mandatory.

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Please stand up, point to your bellybutton and repeat after me, “This is not the center of the Universe.”

Not everything is a personal attack on you, or even about you.

You sir need to take a step away from the forums and maybe relax. You seem to take everything personally.

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So by your logic, blizzard should implement a “anti discord” feature into the game that prevents the game from starting if you have discord installed and thus no one will be able to play because everyone has discord including your grandmother

May want to take your own advice on this one. Im not the one crying for something to be changed just to make it more convenient for me. Because yes rdf would be more convenient. Doesnt mean its better for the overall game though. To much convenience breeds entitlement.

I havnt done heroics in weeks because I have everything I need, but I recently started doing them again for gold and omg, the ques are so bad. Used to take 5 mins to get a group. Now most of the dungeons have only 1-2 people qued for them and no tanks want to do them anymore. Everyday just increases the need for RDF more and more. At this rate, classic will just be a completely dead game that is only accessible to those already geared for raids

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Entitlement is showing up to raid every week to be carried for free.

You get enough entitlement.

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You still only look at raids by parses only i see. I put in more than enough effort in for the level of difficulty that is naxx.

You just feel like i am being carried because you have the mindset that if every parse isnt a 99 or over the player is bad, for content that is just as easy as a heroic dungeon and could have the entire raid be parsing under 20 and still clear.

I have no such attitude.

Your actions show you are being carried.

If you don’t consume and your raid does that’s a red flag.

If the same spec we you is doing almost a 90 parse while you do a 62 average that’s a red flag.

You can dance all you like, you’re getting carried.

You can parse while doing mechanics.

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Give him a break. It’s hard to pull off a perfect rotation and troll the forums at the same time.

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Its almost like one is responsible for mechanics and the other isn’t. But i guess ulduar will tell now wont it?

So you’re telling me of your 183 kills have a mechanics job on all of them??

Jeez that’s crazy.

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No, but then i do have some higher parses as well.

It does however effect my average by a good bit. But you would have to use logic to realize something like that.

You have 3 orange parses out of 183 kills…

Stop it.

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I wonder what they can do if they proceed with Cata Classic or MOP Classic?
How long can they kick the no-rdf can down the road?

I think they can see the ‘community’ deteriorating in classic (Case in point: the post above me referring to parses in response to someone’s post – no one really wants to play with these people yet here we are – keeping RDF out of WOTLK seems to be a zero sum gain.
But maybe it would be ‘worse’ in their eyes if they enabled RDF.

But what will they do in a further ‘classic’ expansion – if they do one?

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