So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

You know, wearing gear feels mandatory. I like running around naked. And running is the operative word. Mounts are stupid and should be removed. I don’t like ‘em and they feel mandatory. So Blizz should totes remove ‘em. And even flight paths. I’d prefer to run on foot, but I’m forced to use them. That’s bad design!

Talents are for suckers too. A real player goes talentless. Off with the talents! Why should I be forced to use talents?

Blizz should apply this design to the entire game. That way we can all have the exact same experience, with zero choice or freedom in anything. Because when there’s choices players might choose different things and that’s bad!!!

Thank you for your time.

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Agreed, tbh, the game feels mandatory, just close it.

So then that begs the question… why do people want to do something the NON-efficient way? Theyd rather wait 30-60 minutes to get a group together, run, summon etc and waste time? Its honestly baffling to me.

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The reason is what we said months ago: they just want to control and gatekeep other players.

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Because the way it is now encourages people to make social connections to make the grouping experience better.

Rdf removes that encouragement because it no longer really impacts you as much. Aka, it makes the game less social by removing a method the game encouraged you to be social.

Still trying to use this strawman i see, yet you are such the gatekeeper you put people on ignore because you cant deal with someone who has a different opinion than you.

No one makes social connections - I list myself, and I get random invites. No one communicates prior to the invite. I accept - they say “H HoS” and that’s it.

Where’s the social connections you’re promising?

Again… no one is being social outside their own inner social circles - a.k.a, guilds.

Yeah… that’s not what gatekeeping means.

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It’s up to you to make them.

Thats not really a valid argument anymore. How do you make social connections when you cant even find people to group with?

If people want social connections like you all are saying, then why is it failing so badly? Where is everyone?

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So when I go out and get a random invite, and I say “No, I don’t want to tank for people that invite before communicating with me,” and they put me on ignore after that, what incentivizes me to be outgoing and social with people?

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What do you want me to answer you? Tell you how you’re supposed to make friends? Did you not learn this when you were in school?

It’s fine if you don’t want to make connections with every single person you group with, but unless you’re completely anti-social you will be adding people to the friends list if you play enough.

Again… people are literally putting me on ignore because I’m wanting socialization and communication.

Did you not read my comment? Like… at all?

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Were you home schooled by an helicopter parent by any chance?

Nope. Not sure how that fits into this, though.

Thats your choice to not try to make social connections. But currently the game encourages you to do so through the lack of a tool like rdf.

I didnt promise them, you have to work to form them.

Again, because this is how you chose to play the game doesnt mean thats how everyone does, I actively look ro make social connections, but you chose to play in a way that doesnt. Which isnt wrong, it just has the downside of grouping for content being harder to do.

I mean, his attitude is to not include someone in the conversation if he doesnt agree with them. By many of the pro rdf use of the word gatekeeping, or not getting invited to other peoples groups for any reason (including already being full). Hes not having a conversation with me so clearly he is gatekeeping by that “definition” many pro rdf people seem to use.

Picking and choosing which to reply to in my comment doesn’t support your claims any further.

I have said (on multiple occasions) that I have been put on IGNORE because I want people to reach out to me first, thus creating a SOCIAL CONNECTION.

Actually, if we look at the last three years, that’s how the MAJORITY plays this game.

You said (s)he puts people on ignore they don’t agree with - that’s not gatekeeping; that’s being an adult and not arguing over pointless crap.

I don’t want to use words that’ll get me banned. I’ll tell you this, your expectations are not reasonable and you need to chill.

My expectation of… receiving communication prior to the invite?

Find or make a leveling guild, make connections to multiple guilds. Find people near your levek and help them wuth their stuff, and some of them will become friends that might end up giving you access to their guild activities and groups without you being directly in that guild. The list goes on.