So can we finally admit that not having RDF killed Wrath Classic?

Yes, I actually like rdf for that reason. I get bored with an over geared group doing a dungeon run. It’s more fun with a mix of under geared and medium geared players. Especially with the easy wrath dungeons.

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Well wrath rdf was out when the ICC dungeons came out. So you can play it then

Except no rdf, and oving into cata id advocate no lfr. They are toxic systems that lead to toxic play habbits , you disagreeing still doesnt discredit our concerns. You just cant actually provide evidence that OUR OPINIONS from playing then and now are actually wrong so youre ignoring the points being made and moving the goalposts, instead of retail, go back to 4chan and your conspiracy theories.

Other games prove that statement is bull$hit.

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If blizzard had announced rdf would be released with the ICC dungeons 90% of the complaints would disappear. But instead they said it wasn’t going to be added at all.

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That happens in classic with no RDF so RDF is not the cause of that.

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When was dual spec out? When was cold weather flying out? When were a hundred things in the original game that are already in Wrath Classic? By the way, Blizz has said RDF is never coming to Wrath Classic. So you fail on multiple levels.

Also, gratz on your latest troll alt you’re using. Let’s see how fast you spam these threads and move to another one.

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Is wow other games? I mean, LoL is toxic as hell, as was Halo 2 back in the day when i played ,im assuming CoD is the same. So you still are just spouting non relavent information to someone that has played since 1.9 and has jated rfd and lfr since their inception for the reaspns i mentioned.

Coming from a level 60 Dracthyr is peak irony.

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Cross-realm went in with 1.12. You complaining about bgs too?

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No this is my main on wrath atm if i do continue to play. I realize i just prefer healing like i always did.

And they never said never. they left this RDF part open ended so they can bring it in if they wanted to. As we can see these devs/ decision makers are basically doing what they think is the healthiest thing.

FFXIV. Best MMO community out there.

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And that’s part of the problem they have a long history of making terrible design decisions which they’re now shoving wrath classic instead of proven good solutions like RDF.

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The old battlegroup system from vanillaband tbc was fine not full xrealm, full xrealm made mmr mandatory and i prefered the old system to the new mmr. Mmr works for actual lobby games like cod. The ranking system works better when there are 30+ different playstyles to balance around (class and specs)

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Was that a yes or no.

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We are never going to get serious debates with these 4chan/8kun losers. Theyllnjust keep arguing about irrelevant craap like retail and FFXIV

Very debatable.

You know how people say WoW community is toxic? FFXIV tried so hard to be “anti-toxic” they looped right back to toxic. Toxic Casuality. They are happy being bad and giving advice makes you a toxic elitest. Legitimately had someone tell me “Unsolicited advice is harassment” it’s wild.

RDF and LFR was one of the reasons that ppl stopped playing retail. Why create a classic experience if your going to introduce what drove them off.

I highly doubt RDF caused people to quit, if they did how incredibly stupid do you have to be to quit because you can queue for any dungeon your level lul.

It’s basically the same as putting yourself in LFG and randomly getting an invite 2 hours later.

LFR was pretty awful but like, just don’t use it? lol Normal and Heroic and even Mythic exists

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They also didnt like they kept adding more tiers to raiding.

Its a lot of things that led to ppl quitting wow and wanting to play classic as it was.