Any dead nelf < any potentially dead belf. That ain’t cowardice in my book, that’s how a leader should think about his people. Tyrande would do the same, I’m sure.
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I’ve found any latent animosity between the night elves and blood elves to be weird as hell, truth be told. In WC3 Tyrande went out of her way to help Kael and his people, and there was no indication of past issues. In TBC the most the nelves did was spy, and then it was never mentioned again.
Probably has something to do with Blizzard arbitrarily changing how long blood elves live somewhere between MoP and BfA.
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I thought it was Kael who went out of his way to help Maiev and Tyrande.
Racial leaders. I said racial leaders.
When paired with the villain bat, re-examination is a bad experience. And lack of that particular combo is a good thing, yes.
I didn’t expect you to understand, though, so I’m not surprised to see that you don’t.
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Well that’s another bit of poor writing. But who’s keeping count anyways.
When the first thing you worry about after helping genocide someone and they go on the warpath to find the ones responsible is to not be caught in their sights, instead of trying to make up for what you did, that is cowardice. Worms have more backbone.
We still don’t know what the Alliance is for. And we have even less of an idea after bfa. Sure we didn’t get villainbatted. We just got batted by the villains, and then told to suck it up. Twice. It’s not the improvement you think it is.
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No, it’s about worrying that the vengeance might fall on those who don’t deserve it
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Well, maybe someday they’ll give you that story. I can almost guarantee it won’t come in the form of one of your leaders turning into a villain that both sides get to beat up for purples.
You’ve strayed from the topic of the positives of keeping the majority of your original leaders, which was the original question you challenged me on. It’s possible to have your cities blown up with or without those leaders. Also, you may notice that I didn’t say anything about preventing cities from being blown up as one of the upsides of having those leaders intact. It’s a completely separate thing.
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Grabs popcorn
Tyrande convinced Maiev to help Kael’thas escort his caravan and people through undead infested lordaeron and then after Tyrande sacrificed herself to keep everyone else safe, Kael’thas informed Malfurion that Tyrande could still be alive after Maiev lied and said she was for sure dead so that Malfurion would focus on hunting Illidan.
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Yeah that’s right, been a minute since I did that campaign.
And he’s also hoping tyrande doesn’t turn that fury on the horde next, should sylvanas die. It’s a legit worry for a leader of a people who’s population is half of it was to begin with
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Lor’themar has way less then half his people lol, least they changed that 90% decimation of the Quel’dorei or something.
Lor’themar, according to current lore, should be down to like 9% of what his people used to be. Because the Void Elves are the other 1% or something.
I know. I guess my point was he’s legit worried Tyrande will finish what Arthas started all those years ago 
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Well, there’s a discussion to be had about who deserves what. But Lor’themar is most certainly not innocent, and neither is the Horde.
With Turalyon on the throne, and the light being shown to be perhaps not so benevolent, i’d actually bet against that. But we shall see.
Because from where I was standing, it seemed like you didn’t understand that we too got our short end of the stick. I would have preffered to lose leaders instead of being beaten up twice in a row without being allowed revenge or recompense. You can’t pretend that the Horde losing their leaders was in a vacuum, where the Alliance lost nothing of value in return.
So what is it that you think hurts about not losing leaders? The villain batting and the loss of the characters themselves? Do you think the grey nothingness the Alliance received as characterization is better? Because I care not for either the characterization of the current Alliance, or the Characters we still have that you lost. It would mean nothing to me if the Alliance was villainbatted, or if one of our characters went off the deep end. Not compared to having to endure something similar to Theramore or Teldrassil.
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I’ve seen people point out the same criticism towards Saurfang for worrying that “they’ll come for us now”.
And you know what? Even if the entirety of the Horde including the Org orphanage was somehow responsible, I still think they’re within their right to want to live and not throw themselves out for Tyrande as a sacrificial lamb.
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The light has never been shown to be benevolent exclusively, I mean the scarlet crusade is the best example of how the light cared not who used its powers and it was all based on conviction to your cause.
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The Light is a school of magic that’s worshipped as a living entity. The closest you get to the Light being sentient is the Naaru and whatever is above them. The Naaru are not always benevolent.
All you have to do to wield the light is believe that what you’re doing is truly righteous. That’s why the Light falters when people question themselves.
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And I have not said, nor will I say, that they should line up to be executed. What i’m saying, have been saying, and will continue to say, is that Lor’themar should have shown a bit more remorse, and a lot less fear. That would make me loathe him less.
Maybe it’s just me, but I find the notion that the horde should just roll over and die because a small porption of it was responsible for Teldrassil to be a bit extreme and silly.
I’m also confused why the ENTIRE horde, including that baker trying to make a living should apologize for something the vast majority of them weren’t even involved with
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