Maybe it’s a combination of me being salty and blizzard sitting on their hands for two yrs regarding teldrassil, but in my opinion? They did a pretty poor job of making me feel bad.
I mean, the initial scenario was terrible and all. But after two years of dealing with the same nonsensical posts from the same small vocal minority really made me uncaring.
Are you talking about the NPCs or the players? Because I’m talking about the players.
Depends what you care more for. I think Night elf players have it worse, in the sense they had to watch their species genocided, without getting any payback. That cuts quite deep. But of course the Forsaken suffered immensly, having lost their capital as well, on top of their leader. It’s mainly a matter of presentation, and I think teldrassil, on the whole, makes the whole bfa feel worse for Night elf players than Forsaken players. Mainly because after Teldrassil the Night elves felt like an afterthought, despite what happened to them. But it’s close, and merely my opinion.
This I have no disagreement with you on. Blizzard has once again written off the Horde, same as they did in Legion. Their choices for that again go way beyond their choices to continue Teldrassil’s story.
In that sense the Forsaken and the Night Elves are indeed parallel. Sylvanas and Tyrande both get about the same amount of screen time as each other. More for Sylvanas if a player does not choose the Night Fae covenant.
Saving Tyrande doesn’t actually have anything to do with saving the Night Elf souls from the Maw, which was already carried out. Whatever they do with Tyrande at this point is only about as relevant as whatever they do with Sylvanas.
This I don’t really agree with. Why would the Forsaken want revenge? For being abandoned? Being called nothing? Would that stir a burning desire for revenge? More seems like it would invoke a state of stupor and aimlessness. Or, hell, Forsaken are presented as still loyal to Sylvanas to the Sylvanas Loyalist Horde players.
Yeah, and that’s the attitude that poisons these threads, frankly. At least you’re honest about it.
Good, then we’re on the same page. 
Cheers!
Everyone, storywise is working towards bringing Sylvanas to justice. And 2 of the 3 architects of the fourth war are dead, the NE souls are officially saved from the Maw, we’re currently hunting for more Night Warriors so Tyrande can keep her powers without them killing her, what more justice could there be demanded of from the story?
The way I see it, forsaken is basically a fantasy stand-in for depression and being a little off-kilter in general. Stupor and aimlessness? Absolutely. Denial? Yeah, and we even see a bit if that if you were a loyalist NPC. Misery loving company and bitter, unrelenting spite? That should make the list too.
A huge part of the way the forsaken are the way they are is because of their feelings of being abandoned and no longer having a place, until Sylvanas gave them a purpose. For better or worse, a lot of that came out in the form of wanting revenge (originally against Arthas, then also taking it out on the Scarlet Crusade).
Now their new messiah has forsaken them too. Imagine a hokey scene of some very angry undead stomping down toward Sylvanas’s door, willing to stomp through the maw because they’re just THAT spiteful, repeating Putress’s old line of “do you think we had forgotten? Do you think we had forgiven?” with the implication that her political creation would spell her own downfall. I personally think that would be a hell of a lot more impactful than even Tyrande or Genn going after her, because ultimately Sylvanas was just another 8-4 Bowser for them to focus on as an external enemy.
To note, the Horde did apologize. The whole Horde council sent Thrall to apologize on their behalf to Tyrande in Shadows Rising.
Wouldn’t the Forsaken just end up a daily quest to pick up their fallen weapons in the Maw, too?
Didn’t Thrall and Maiev also get into a arguement while he was on Mount Hyjal?
Kind of? Was mostly just Maiev yelling at Thrall and Thrall not really saying anything back.
Oh yeah. Now I remember. Danke for refreshing my memory 
Probably. I was going to say “or you’d pick up their body parts and put them back together” because that’s been a thing done a few times in the past, but that’s probably not the dark tone Blizzard wants out of maw dailies.
There’s no getting around Bolvar being the stand-in, unfortunately, but it feels all the more stinging to see that Calia’s being used instead. I know at this point I’m supposed to consider her “forsaken” but 
The biggest missed opportunity for the Forsaken was during the pre-patch. With the Scourge free of the helm it should have been an opportunity for the Forsaken to recruit more suddenly sapient undead to their ranks and help them acclimate to carrying on with their unlives.
Bring back the dead, or comfort their living kin. I’d say that is quite reasonable.
Did he apologize because they, the council, wanted to apologize, or did he aplogize because he and he alone wanted to? There is quite an important distinction to be made there.
A) we saved only a few of all the dead nightelf. Ysera even said that. Most of them are still in thorgast.
B) the forsaken need amount of work to set them on a new path
Killing or not killing from sylvanas would not change this
You know that wasn’t the plan right? That’s not what the point even meant to say. This actually goes against the plan of the WoT. At least against Saurfangs plan, the thing the argument was about.
Read what you are responding too.
They’re not bringing the dead Night Elves back to life. Souls from Teldrassil that we save from the Maw are already moving on and enjoying Ardenweald. Though Tyrande did demand the Horde comfort the Night Elves that lost loved ones in response to the apology, but ultimately settled for just Sylvanas’ head.
Baine and Calia went with Thrall to see Tyrande, too. Thrall went out of his way throughout the book to put the Horde council forward first so that he wouldn’t be the figurehead of the Horde again.
Even in-game Lor’themar hoped for comfort for Tyrande during the pre-patch event:
That’s great and all, but I think the still living Night elves would prefer if they were still alive. And I don’t think the Night elves, realistically, would let go of their anger because someone told them that they are in a better place.
This is not exactly a good look for Lor’themar. He’s apparently more concerned about Tyrande going bonkers on the Horde, rather than feeling sorry about what happened to her or her people. Very poor choice of words.
First, it symbolizes how the Alliance haven’t had any racial leaders villain-batted and removed. Not one. The closest you came was Fandral Staghelm, ten years ago, and he was the spare NE leader.
Second, it shows how the Alliance haven’t been forced to re-examine and reinvent themselves every three expansions or so.
You know who you are and where you stand in the game world, and the game tells you it’s good.