To be fair, they listened enough to add the completely pointless Loyalist plotline, as well as adding more night warrior stuff when the whole “8.1 was their revenge” didn’t fly.
So it’s possible if the Horde whinge loud and often enough they’ll get something.
I hope you see your hypocracy here, but to be safe I’ll point it out to you.
takes a shot
It pleases me that I’ve become a drinking game.
This probably seems weird, but since the thread spiraled into back-and-forth stuff, I wanted to revisit your post to say thanks for being respectful in replying to me, even if we disagree and if my opinion admittedly seems silly.
When they add stuff for the Alliance, they’re fixing an issue that didn’t fly.
When they add stuff for the Horde, it’s because of our whinging and it’s pointless.
Ok.
I don’t believe this at all. The Loyalist questline is because Danuser is a Sylvanas simp, and Blizz always intended to have the Night Warrior be part of Shadowlands.
I do see it. It’s on purpose.
Well, good to know you’re open about being mediocre a troll. I think we’re done here.
The “8.1 was not good enough” was night elf whinging don’t get it twisted now.
I didn’t know Krillin defeated the bad guy(Sylvanas) after giving a pep talk to Goku(Saurfang) about Honor and Fighting despite the former should know more than Krillin
Besides this has been a thing since Legion and still baffles how unbalance and inequal is the writing
A repeated storyline doesn’t count
And so can the Alliance survive without being involved ever in the storyline, after all why waste spotlight in Anduin when all he does is whine that nobody listen to him aka Jaina 2.0
We’ve been whinging takes a shot about that since cata. Not seeing any progress.
Draenie in WoD. Velen and night elves in Legion. Tyrande in BfA and SL.
It’s progress. Not enough to be sure, and more akin to tokenism than real development, but ignoring that since WoD we’ve seen more from the non-humans in each expansion than the three expansions before combined is dishonest.
Don’t Post.
Ignore.
Report.
There are options other than having a fight with someone where neither side is going to agree with the other, when someone devolves into name calling, “witty posts” that don’t contribute to the thread, or someone posts the same bait every thread.
The Alliance did not defeat Sylvanas. Saurfang did. All Anduin did was give Saurfang the pep talk needed to get moving.
I use Krillin as the example because he’s always overshadowed, when in this situation Gandalf would probably be better. But the point remains the same, the Alliance was not the main character of their own story.
Sadly it does.
Apparently that’s the reality we’re already living in. And yes, it does suck. But at this point it’s just about learning how to deal.
Because so far only Horde and night elf whinging has ever seemed to work, I doubt I’ll ever see an actual Alliance storyline. Unless they cheap out and do a copy of the Horde’s “Find Yourself” plot. I’m sure we all can agree that’ll be good storytelling.
Gonna have to disagree here. From my memory, the Loyalist campaign showed up after enough (valid) whinging was done about how the Horde was going to betray their Warchief again.
And I will never believe they planned to have the Night Warrior be as prominent in Shadowlands when she showed up in BfA, because that’s the kind of incompetent storytelling that I’d expect from a middle schooler writing fanfic and not a allegedly multi-million dollar company.
You have a point, still the design is pretty different, Night Elven settlements have a signature look (that i love), while ardenweald is different, but evoque the same high fantasy feel that made me like night elves in the first place.
Purely visually speaking, Maldraxxus is more forsaken themed than Ardenweald is Night Elf themed.
Yes, Maldraxxus doesn’t feature any major forsaken character while Ardenweald features Ysera and the Tyrande storyline. Maldraxxus actually manages to have all major lore characters be quite neutral in nature
I’m going to need a source for this
“Scum” isn’t petty name calling? Because that didn’t come from Xamantul.
Maldraxxus is Scourge themed. Forsaken architecture is more Tim-Burton-Meets-Gilneas.
Very hard disagree.
Ardenweald has enough night elf adjacent themes going on that it’s easy to see the similarities; color palette, Ysera and Ursoc, tree-based architecture, heavy nature themes.
Maldraxxus has heavy Scourge themes, but nothing Forsaken at all; Scourge architecture (which we don’t see anywhere in Forsaken zones), Scourge color palettes (complete with regions that absolutely could be plopped right down in Icecrown without standing out, and aren’t very present in Forsaken zones), even Scourge characters (hi2u KT, gonna kill you again!!). But nothing at all forsaken-y, except mindless zombies and skeletons.
Now to be clear, while I definitely feel Ardenweald is very “night elf-y themed”, I’m not calling it a “Alliance afterlife” or “Night Elf zone” or any of that nonsense. I see where people are getting that impression and acknowledging the similarities, but I don’t see anything really wrong with it. Yeah, I’d like to see more of the Bwonsamdi stuff in the main questline (TBH, because I skipped sidequests as much as I could with the intent of doing them later, I still haven’t even found the Bwonsamdi stuff and forgot it existed), but I’m not salty about what we got in Ardenweald at all. I love the zone.
And it has the best fishing spots in all of Shadowlands.
So my post was flagged for?
NEPs have thin skin apparently lmao