They listed all the significant things that happened throughout the years. We don’t need a list of every minor conflict that arose in between. I know it’s a shock to some, but even with our own history, there are stretches where nothing really major or important happened.
Not really. The largest wars and a view events sure. I mean thousands of years are literally blank.
There are far more things then conflicts. Giving a little inside in to different societies should be something we can expect.
Really? I can’t think of one were for a very long time literally nothing happened at all. Not knowing things, stable periods etc. are fine. But the extreme long spans of time in some cases are what’s really bugging me.
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They are supposedly Gonk loa guys. Which I really wish was expanded upon with Trolls, instead of pushing every druid into Night Elf aesthetics. Yes, still upset about Legion in that regard.
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Kind of only. They were not even originally Gonk followers (the Darkspears), but trough him they could connect with other loa (wonder if the bear form is from the Amani, or Drakkari). I would like to see more explenations and lore for the different classes, for every race. Like the Tauren and Zandalari “paladins”. Even different armor sets.
The Zandalari druids are a bad case in my view too. The changed dinomancers to simply druids, only because of the came play (and to simplify everything) and even created the Luna’lai… Gonk alone wasn’t good enough.
Hmm. Was it that hard to not put the moon tattoo on the default troll bear form though?
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You’re not wrong, but the reason it’s so ard to suspend disbelief with WoW is the timeframe.
So from the Legion’s first invasion until the time they sent not-so-little green men to gir 'er dun, was thousands of years. But since the first war, we had its direct sequel, a zombie map version, dark iron dwarves decided to bring a fire god into the world, all the remaining old gods awoke and tentacled the planet, Deathwing woke up from his long nap, Sargeras finally thought to look up Azeroth on Google Maps, two more zombie apocalypse invasions, Death started dying, Azeroth started dying, extra-temporal orcs invaded, the remnants of the deadest old god woke up and got in Garrosh’s belly, the fire god came back, the plane of dreams had a nightmare, and those are just the greatest hits.
More world-ending or at least world-altering conflicts have happened in the last three decades, while for ten thousand years it seems to have been mostly mop-up duty from the WotA, or locking up threats that come back ten thousand years later.
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They were still in the process of retooling balance into being all about astral damage at that point, if I recall correctly. I don’t think Blizzard was trying to pretend there were non-nelfy ways to do druidism at the time, so the moon tattoo was probably a given.
I think troll druid was basically “something something a loa named Gonk said to go train at the Cenarion Circle” and that was that.
Not quite. Darkspear druids have their own story since their release. Hexdoc’s and priests needed help from Gonk, so he teached them basically the way of the druid. He convinced some other loa to lend them powers and letting the “druids” use their animal forms. But the loa hated the idea to work with followers of a different los. So Gonk had to promise that those view news “druids” would be the only ones and no new ones should ever be created. With that condition the other loa agreed.
Make a new Darkspear druid and you can read it during your first quests.
But for some reason they were used like nornal cenarion druids for some Stange reason and even a horrible “student” joke caracter I shall not name exist.
Well move forward to BfA were non of that was touched upon and Zandalari druids simply exist as Gonk followers. Perhaps that’s why they don’t use loa transformations.
You’re right, I just want to point out:
" Those who studied with Cenarius learned the druidic magic of the natural world, while others mastered the art of wielding shamanic powers." (chronicles Vol 1 pg.90)
But, in all that time, Malfurion was the first Cool Guy to get the full kit. Because Nelves are just better I guess. 
Night elves play a large part in Druid lore, but they’re not the only aspects of Druid Lore.
The well of eternity describes other servants of cenarius becoming trees and other beings.
Malfurion is kinda the first fully realized druid, but nature magic happened in other ways.
The darkspear troll, tauren, worgen and night elf druidic teachings come directly from the Malfurion/Cenarius school of druidism, while the Zandalari and the Kultirans seems to be the ones that have their own style.
Yes thats what I said.
Could you tell Blizzard that?
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Not for Darkspear. Read what I wrote above about the Darksepar. Their way of druidism comes directly from Gonk.
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Didn’t Gonk just said; “Learn from the cenarion circle” or something like that?
I don’t remember if it ended in such a way (which would be extremely strange). But the Troll trainer on the Echo Isles tells you the story at the start of your journey.
With the pact between Gonk, the “druid” and the other loa etc.
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I see.
Well, there is probably some shared knowledge, but still different schools.
It really ends with the Cenarion Circle… for some reason I can’t really tell. I guess it’s mostly for game play reasons (even during Legion the Trolls there had strange “class” names). After reading it again, the contact is for the case the other loa don’t hold on to their end of the bargain.
From Zalazane’s Fall
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Zen%27tabra
Zen’tabra, are you one of the druids from the rumors? Were there druids on the Echo Isles long ago?
<Zen’tabra laughs.>
We spread dose rumors, mon. Keep’n Zalazane and others off our tails. Don’t be believin’ everytin ya hear.
No, we be new ta de craft, only learnin’ a few years ago. But in some ways, we spend our lives preparin’ ta answer de call…
What were you before you were druids, then?
Some o’ us be loa priests, witch doctors before. Like Zalazane…
<Zen’tabra’s face grows hard as her gaze drifts south.>
We thought de spirits be angry wit us; we did not suspect it be Zalazane slowly cuttin’ us off from dem. We knew he be strong, but not dat strong… and by de time his voodoo had reached de other isles, we was powerless ta stop 'im.
How did you escape Zalazane?
<Zen’tabra closes her eyes and shakes her head.>
When Vol’jin called for everyone ta flee, we… couldn’t face de tribe after failing dem so badly. So, we fled south, ta de untamed jungle islands.
De wilds claimed a few o’ us dat first night. We found safety in a deep cave in de center o’ de isle, but me dreams dere were not peaceful: I be havin’ a vision!
What was the vision?
<Zen’tabra’s head snaps back to you, her eyes bright and her smile wide around her tusks.>
'Twas a jungle bigger and wilder dan I ever seen! And before me, de ancient raptor loa only talked about in Zandalari tales- Gonk, de Great Hunter!
De raptor spirit spoke ta me, told me he had brought me spirit to a place called de Emerald Dreem. De spirit had been trapped, like de other loa on de Echo Isles, by Zalazane’s magic. But Gonk, bein’ an ancient spirit, was able ta reach across and bring me spirit ta him, even through Zalazane’s voodoo.
What did the spirit want?
Zalazane’s mindless servants were killin’ all de beasts o’ de isles, burnin’ up de trees and plants too. Gonk needed us ta save de life on de isles. But since we not be able ta draw upon de power o’ de loa wit Zalazane in power, Gonk be showin’ us a new way ta connect wit ALL de spirits o’ nature, ta work WIT de spirits, not just be servin’ a single loa at a time.
It be difficult at first, ya, mon, but Gonk be showin’ us how ta also reach inta de Emerald Dream wit de spirits and learn from dem directly!
How did the other loa react to this?
<Zen’tabra laughs.>
De other loa, ‘specially Shirvallah, did not much care for dis plan. Dey still be wantin’ us ta work just for one o’ dem at a time, not wit all de spirits at once. But Gonk had forced dere hands, and de knew it was de only way ta save de isles while Zalazane still rules.
I be tinkin’ dat Gonk did not care for de other loa much either. He be teasin’ de other loa all de time while we be learnin’ from dem.
So what happened then?
We been workin’ wit de spirits for many moons now, mon, but many o’ us already knew de forms o’ de loa we served before. It not be easy, but de Emerald Dream be a powerful teacher by itself-havin’ de spirits demselves also teachin’ ya… it hurries tings along.
Dat don’t mean ‘twas easy keepin’ safe from Zalazane. Even wit our new tricks combined wit de loa givin’ what help dey could, we lost a few bruddas and sistas over de years ta his voodoo and mindless servants. But we kept de life o’ de isles alive, and when Vo’jin and de Darkspears returned, we knew just how ta take Zalazane down.
So are the loa still holding to their side of the deal?
Ya, mon, for now. Dey not be too keen on teachin’ many more o’ our kind, but dey be helpin’ us ‘long as we be keepin’ de life o’ de isles flourishin’. When Gonk left after de fall o’ Zalazane, he be tellin’ us how ta contact him if de other loa don’t keep dey end o’ de bargain.
I be hopin’ it never come ta dat… but just in case, we be openin’ up channels wit dat Cenarion Circle group.
<Zen’tabra cackles madly.>
Oh, ya shoulda seen de look on dat night elf’s face…
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This is so cool, I imagine them doing gorilla warfare with animal forms against Zalazane. Tempted to roll a Darkspear druid if my sub wasn’t gonna run out.
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The fact there’s people here denying it being overtly Night Elf shows why the WoW fanbase can’t be trusted with anything
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