So Ardenweald story is as much troll as night elf?

The RP is getting a bit intensive here.

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By the highborne

By the Scourge

Again, the scourge.
The Alliance had nothing to do with any of them. But the Horde were the ones who genocided the Night elves. That is the difference.

From anyone sane. Jaina killed one king, who were helping the ones who genocided one of our member races. While the Horde did just that, genocide.

Convinient you didn’t read the rest of that sentance. But I guess i’ll rephrase. When the Horde Apologizes for everything they have done before the 4th war, and then apologizes for what they did after, as well as offer reparations, then the Alliance should apologize. But not a second before.

If “Forsaking” them meant they deserved genocide, I guess in your mind the Tauren deserves to be erased completely, after what they did. Proportional revenge and all that.

Im not even gonna respond to this Junk. This isn’t the rp forum.

How convinient, that because of circumstances the Horde isn’t responsible for anything they do, but the Alliance is, in your mind. Do you even see the double standard?

No, because those who would do that aren’t worth being friends with.

Well, considering that no neutral organisation helped the Horde following the Burning, I don’t think they are enemies. I would have preferred if they responded to the Burning itself by cutting ties with the Horde, but I guess it was for the best they stayed away from that dumpsterfire of a story altogether.
Please, grow up. If you want a proper discussion, i’ll be here. But not when you act like this.

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Also. Why people blame Jaina for the murder of Rastakhan?

It was Genn, Jaina was on a boat.

Yes, the alliance is responsible for that, but it wasn’t Jaina in specific, it was Genn and 20 unnamed Alliance heroes.

This is so wrong i had to address this one.
Night Elves are in general pretty selfless, aggressive and secluded? Sure. But they spent the entire long vigil protecting Azeroth on multiple fronts.

Let’s not forget being major players in 2 of the 3 times the Burning Legion failed to invade Azeroth.

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the highbornes are no more the only few left are actually part of the night elfs and the humans dwarfs also have their shares of genocides

no by garrithos and jaina

once the forsakens broke free of the scourge they tried to go back to the alliance and they were met with violence and were hunted down and slaughtered

you choosing to ignore your mary sue faction actions doenst mean they don’t exist

jaina killed one king , attacked an entire grp of innocents in a neutral city without proofs and almost killed all the innocents in ogrimmar

the night elfs decided the taurens who had been great friends to them until that point , didnt deserved to be saved from being wiped out by the centaurs because they didnt care enough about them

betrayers deserve only death

someone is malding

the horde is responsible for many things this isnt one of them

yes what higher power mind controlled the alliance into doing all the things that the alliance did ?

there is no double standards here , only in your mind

okay so I guess tortollans and sethraks are confirmed as horde new allied races now Pog

acting like what ? lol , you are the one acting like a brat by just saying that in the first place , you don’t wanna talk good idc , I don’t wanna talk with someone that ignores the lore and tell others to “grow up” because he is himself too much of a child to accept that people have opinions different from his own

“wdym your opinion isnt the same as me ?! grow up” ppppppfffffffffff

okay lol

every race protect azeroth its nothing special , but night elfs don’t care about any other races than their own that the selfish part i am speaking of

and they only protected azeroth to protect themselves not because they care , if they were as kind as you pretend , they would care for other races too that have always been allies to them but they don’t , taurens are a perfect example of that

The taurens that learned druidism from night elves? Sure.

Also, accepting the duty to protect the emerald dream.

Protecting Kalimdor, founding the Unseen Path. The wardens to face demonic enemies. Giving land, aid and protection for the Draenei that had no connection to them, aid to the Gilneans and helping them deal with the Worgen curse. Helping the Nighborne resistance despite differences and so on.

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My assumption was because Jaina is the person who spearheaded the attack. Genn was just a lacky for that mission.

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As Horde you see Jaina more so in the front. And Jaina seemed to have command. At the end the commander is also responsible. Things like that. It makes sense.

Edit: Jaina even got her nick name “Witch of the sea” from the Zandalari after that attack (I think?).

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Fair. Jaina was leading the attack. But since Genn was the one that decided to kill Rastakhan instead of arresting him as was his orders made things his fault.

But yeah, makes sense for the horde to put blame on jaina as well.

And yet Jaina was still neutral when she let Alliance troops through Theramore?

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doenst matter in what i am speaking of

the taurens that needed help from the night elfs and the night elfs answer was “can’t be bothered”

because it personally affect them , this decision didnt come out of selflessness

no helping the draenei fight a common ennemies of their own , if this/those ennemies were not a prob to them too , they would have let the draeneis die

they only helpt them because the worgen curse is a night elf caused curse and so they had to deal with it in one way or the other

no they helpt only to defeat the legion and because their former connection to suramar , in the lore the night elfs were douchbags to the nightbornes and would have rather have them all die to then get suramar back for themselves and barely cared about them and its the main reason why they joined the horde and also because tyrande threaten them after legion when they tried to rejoin the night elfs

They do exist. They’re called blood elves and nightborne. They are the descendants of the Highborne, alongside the High elves. Of them all, the High elves are the fewest in numbers, with the Nightborne probably having the most.

Why you think the scourge is the Alliance’s fault is beyond me. I don’t blame the Horde for the legion.

Almost, being the key word. Not a soul died, or was even harmed. And she felt quite a bit of regret over what she had almost done a few moments later.

They didn’t help the Horde, the Horde helped them. I don’t blame them for recieving help in their darkest hour. But I do blame those that would give them aid, like the Vulpera.

You need to understand that this isn’t an rp forum. When you do that, and type accordingly, i’ll gladly discuss anything between the heaven and earth.

Attacking Theramore was justified. Reducing it to dust with a mana bomb? Not so.

… What on EARTH does that have to do with the subject? Jaina would be just as non-neutral if Theramore had been simply blown up with gunpowder.

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both of which have already apologied and make up for what they have done

when did I say this ? don’t put words in my mouth

but they did

ppppfffffff

oh boohoo I acted in a rp manner in one of my answers and you didnt like it , what a snowflake

if you don’t like the way I act and speak even tho its not harmful to you , then thats your prob not mine and tbh its a pretty bad and non respectful way of acting toward others

The Night Elves answer wasn’t “can’t be bothered”. It was just a non-answer… because, as far as we know, they were never asked or otherwise made aware of the situation. Night Elves are good at quite alot of things, but telepathy isn’t one of them.

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denial sure is cute

Then, you have a source stating the Tauren asked the Night Elves for help, and were denied?

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I don’t know. The Night Elves are masters of nature. They had people in Feralas and Silithus. The Watchers, per Vault of the Wardens, were essentially world police. And the Night Elves were even able to sense the Plague of Undeath from across the ocean.

So the Night Elves in this situation are either cruel (didn’t help) or incompetent (had no idea the Tauren needed help). They didn’t need telepathy to know, just any sense, which they are equipped with in abundance.

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Wow this thread is long!

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Alot of that was added after WCIII. Except the Scourge, which is kind of a pretty big “disturbance in the force” between Life and Death. In WCIII, while the Horde was helping the Tauren, Night Elf lore was pretty much “they never, ever leave the area around Hyjal, to the point they don’t even know what Orcs or Humans are”. It’s just another thing they’ve just rolled with, like Maiev being shocked at what she sees in Suramar, even though the Vault of the Wardens would later be added right next door. And a whole ancient Druid Mecca, just across the way.

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These factional threads always get like this. Especially when anything Night Elf is involved.

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