Well the Covenant campaign in the Fairies have special dialogues if you are a Nelf. If that isn’t a clear example of a zone though with certain race in mind, well guess some people are really delusional
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We are and that’s a extremely bad joke of you. Yeah sure, most bosses are not even Trolls. We don’t even see any named dead troll in it. We don’t learn anything and we can’t interact with it, only fight against dead trolls. Woa so awesome…
This is pure cringe from you.
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They are the ones who were genocided. There were a lot more of them as a result, and getting them back is the only way to put the burning behind us in any capacity.
A drop compared to an ocean. If Jaina goes, then so goes the entire Horde council for Supporting the 4th war until 8.2.5.
Never, just as the Gilneans haven’t and won’t get an apology for what they Horde did to them.
And then they helped genocide them. The tauren deserve only scorn after that.
They could start with an aplogy from the Horde, considering they house the Blood elves.
When the Horde get down on their collective knees and beg for forgivness for what they did to the Gilneans, to the people of Hillsbrad, and to Theramore, then maybe they get an apology for that.
When they Orcs apologizes for what they did during the 2nd war, maybe.
When you trade to the organization that genocided one of our member states, you forsake neutrality. They should be grateful it was only the caravans that burned.
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“It’s okay when we do it.”
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No, but I find it extremely rich that the Horde would demand an apology when they have hurt the other side far, far more, and many more times.
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It’s statements like these that help me realize the utterly caustic nature of the playerbase.
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So can I take that you leaving Goblins off the list means that you agree that we are simply owed… an apology for that?
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A “drop” that should have united every single Troll tribe.
You can have Baine.
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I’m not refering to the players, and i’m more than a bit annoyed at the person I replied to. Please forgive my abrasivness.
I guess. They did inadvertedly aid the former leader of the Horde, but I don’t think that deserved such a harsh response.
Ironically the only one who I don’t think deserves that fate, if Jaina had to go. Mainly because he actually tried to oppose Sylvanas well before the others.
Don’t know enough about trolls to judge whether this is true, but killing a king is never as bad as genociding an entire race.
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Why not? He did nothing until Derek.
She dosen’t have to go, if it’s up to me. She could tough. What I would like to see is her be made responsible for what she did. And of course a never ending need for vengeance from every Troll.
You can compare it with killing the pope (if there was only one) during medieval times. At least the Zandalari were described as such (for all Trolls). I didn’t mean to say both (Teldrassil / Dazar’alor) are the same. But it’s nothing small either.
And he still did more than the rest of the council combined. Admittedly it says more about them than it does about Baine.
I’ll accept that when the council is held responsible for Teldrassil, which i’m guessing is never, unfortunately.
Not small, sure. But life goes on even if you lose your pope. Not as easy when most of your people is gone, and you’re all that’s left.
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I know people dislike him now, but I bet we’re just gonna forget about Saurfang forever.
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To be fair, it is a bit strange, even silly to me how everything is ignored and now “all is fine”, as long as Thrall hunts Sylvanas or something. I would not expect the Alliance to accept any of the racial leaders of the Horde that were involved in the war.
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And how would this responsibility look like in case of jaina?
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Hard to say what Bizzard would go for. I never imagined they would one day write about a court case, even less one for Garrosh. I would expect Talanji demanding Jainas head. Would she get it? Likely not.
At least acknowledge it in the story.
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I find it hard to imagine people find that book good. I mean… I had fun reading it, but boy was it pure cringe at times.
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War Crimes? Same for me, it was hard enough to get trough. It’s not what I can enjoy.
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It’s just…I think certain people tend to forget that the vast majority of the horde, like the alliance, are comprised of civilians and crafters, who had nothing to do with the burning.
When people like me call for revenge, we mean the people involve directly in the burning of teldrassil and were complicit in allowing it to happen.
Those are who call for the ENTIRE horde to apologize for something they had no hand in is a bit much.
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It’s not only that. I mean, that irks me, but it isn’t just that.
What really irks me is this… “Horde did this, so they all should apologize, also nothing the Alliance did matters, period, and they should feel no guilt.” It’s that kind of attitude. To scale it way down, it’s like someone saying “yeah, I stabbed your friend in the arm, but I don’t need to feel bad for it because you shot my friend in the leg first!”
Did the Horde do more? Absolutely.
Did they do worse? Undoubtedly.
Does that make the Alliance blowing the goblin ship out of the water ok? No. Nobody would really think that, nor should they. But that’s the argument regardless.
And the fact we even keep this tally and bicker like school kids over it. That irks me to no end because it always, always goes the same route and it just boils down to both sides looking for even the smallest slight X did to Y because they exhausted all the big ones over one hundred and fifty posts.
It’s the same argument for the last ten-ish years, only now with new ills to add to the score card. It’s boring. It turns into these file mile long posts quoting one sentence each, trying to out “GOTTUM” each other.
So tiring. Y’all can find more creative things to bicker about, and innovative ways to do the bickering.
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the trolls were genocided , the blood elfs were genocided , the forsakens were too , don’t come cry about lost when the horde have lost so much more
from your point of view perhaps
then why should those arrogant selfish tree huggers that only have ever cared about themselves deserve any better ?
the elfs forsakened them first , its what they deserved
in lore the blood elves have already apologied to the trolls to zul’jin even and tried to make peace with the amani with the horde help , sadly zul’jin was too much blinded by his hate , the only mistake he ever did
We fought for our place in this world , we will never kneel like the slaves you wish we were
the demon blood is responsable for their actions , they have nothing to apologies for , the forsakens and blood elves throught similar exp than the one of the orcs acknowledged and understood that , its why now they hold no grudges againts them
funny how one of the most arrogant and pompous race “blood elves” and the other one being devoid of emotions outside of sadness and anger “the forsakens” are both more mature and understandable than the alliance is
and also tbh they already have apologied in the lore anyway
what a narrow mind and way of thinking , that will only earn you ennemies
so what are all the neutral organizations that worked with the horde now the alliance ennemies ? welp good luck fighting againts the world then
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