That sounds like a people problem then, just because someone associates trees with night elves doesnt mean trees always equals night elves.
As for the music, it’s the same theme that played in Val’Sharah (which IS a Night Elf zone) when Ysera was killed, so of course it makes sense to use it for her rebirth as well.
Night Elves are heavily associated with WoW’s nature tropes and WoW’s form of druidism to the point that the entire Balance spec is ruled by their interpretation of druidism.
But more associated with nature? Only if you’re incapable of writing from a viewpoint where the Night Elven philosophies don’t reign supreme. That shows a lack of imagination and a lack of respect for most of the playerbase. It reinforces that Blizzard basically thinks of the Alliance cultures as “right but boring” and the Horde as fun toys that can smash things, rather than attempting to write a world setting. And sure, that’s what WoW has been, to the disappointment of many. But it doesn’t have to be that way and it would be healthier if it wasn’t.
The music was designed to hit you in the feels while you’re escorting her Wild seed to the Heart of the Forest. They weren’t trying to imply anything. Lets stop looking for what’s NOT there.
And the night elven moon tattoo is on all druid forms.
It’s not a complicated concept to grasp.
But then they couldn’t stomp their feet and clutch their pearls over how so very neglected they are. Then dismiss when Trolls get their very own secret clubhouse demi-plane inside the neutral afterlife of every Nature-aligned mortal and deity in the cosmos, and a significant portion of the Covenant campaign dedicated to saving their gods, handling Bwon’s boss so he can be in charge, and ascending Vol’jin to godhood (while the Night Elf portion is specifically looking for a way to power down Tyrande).
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the symbol of the druid order (which has been recruiting non Night Elves for some years now) and not the Night Elf race?
Pretty sure the Night Elf race still uses the Darnassus banner
Like, hell, one of the freaking excuses for Tauren Paladin is EVEN IN SETTING THE TAUREN NOTICED THE NIGHT ELVES HAD A VERY SPECIFIC INTERPRETATION OF DRUIDISM.
And it does. Not. Have. To be that way.
Ardenweald is the afterlife of Elune’s followers. Stated by the Avatar of Elune herself. Fullstop.
It is the symbol of the night elven druid order whom has indoctrinated every single druid race to perform as night elves do, yes.
Harvest Witchery? Better forget your mores and folkways, your interpretations are inferior to and less than our own. Perform as night elves do, you lesser-thans.
If your argument is to open up cosmetic changes to tailor each spec to different types of whatever they represent (druid, shaman, paladin etc) as opposed to being tied to one race’s interpretation of it (night elves for druid, orcs for shaman, humans for paladin/priest, old god for spriest) then I’m fully in agreement there.
No its a you problem. Most people can make the difference between tree and night elf tree which is why we never had thread about how Zuldazar, Un’goro, Drustvar or many other zone with forest, being night elf zone.
The reason people associate Ardenweal tree with night elf tree isn’t because they are both tree, it is because their fantasy, their ambience and even their look are alike. Nearly every one can see that Ardenweald look a lot more like night elf zone than other forest or jungle zone. It is you that keep saying ‘‘not every tree is night elf!!!’’ which nobody ever pretended.
Which is a music that only appear in night elf zone. It isn’t a Ysera music, it is a night elf music. It playing for the Ysera death in a night elf zone and now playing in a Ysera escort in a night elf looking zone just make her even more night elf associated and Ardenweald with it…
Night Elves have had the longest maintained druidic order in Azerothian history, so of course new druids would at least align (if not join them outright) with them when they are all seeking the same goal; the protection and preservation of Azeroth’s wilds.
Which is weird, since they’re not the oldest race on Azeroth.
You’d think the other older races would have their own customs.
Technically, it’s Kaldorei music, which means it predates the elven schism, so you could argue it represents the roots of the Void, High/Blood elves, and Nightborne as well.
Furthermore, I don’t recall ever seeing Ardenweald’s anima trees in any night elf zone, so I’m not sure where you’re getting the idea that those are somehow Night Elf trees from.
Well they don’t, we know Zandalari Trolls, the oldest civilization on Azeroth, has always worshipped Loa, but have only recently delved into Druidism.
If you don’t like that, take it up with Blizz.
Look, I’m the last person to say that the Alliance doesn’t have a lot of legitimate gripes in the writing. I think in many ways* the Alliance has gotten the worst of it, which is reflected in the playerbase slide.
But as impressive as the trolls are on paper, it really matters what we actually see, and having all this behind a timegated piece of optional endgame content? It is not a lot. And while we had a lot of better troll content last expansion, a lot of it was still inherently from the standpoint of trolls as the enemy. I don’t think Trolls really desperately need more lore, but holding the villain ball does get old. We rarely just celebrate troll culture when it spotlights.
No one cares that Malfurion Stormrage can make tornadoes, he never does it on screen. Literally no one cares. No one cares that the dwarves should be the largest and most coherent military society on Azeroth by far. No one cares that the Draenei have a teleporting space ship with a giant death laser. They don’t exist in the spotlight, so they don’t matter.
The Other Side isn’t in the spotlight, and it doesn’t matter much. It might matter more than that other stuff, but not much.
::He would look at this thread title.::
https://i.imgur.com/js63Ok1.png
This thread and its title have nothing to do with the origins of Druidism.
You know acting smug only works when you aren’t making yourself out to be a fool
I mean, you’re right. Kind of. Ardenweald certainly is the source of all druidism, given that all druid gods originate there and it’s a Night Elven zone.
My point was more that I am taking it up with Blizzard right now. They just likely aren’t paying attention.
I think he’s confused – I’m certainly confused – why anyone thinks the ultimate displeasure isn’t with Blizzard. There have been a lot of short tempers here among us but they almost invariably are transient and about the process of the argument itself, not the cause.
How is Ardenweald the source or Druidism or Wild Gods? All we know is that this is where they go after they die, it says nothing of their origins. Does it mean Draka was created in Maldraxxus because that’s where she went when she died?