I guess that from other fantasy sources, I just expected a desaturated shadow-realm of the dead. SL has been anything but. This isn’t a complaint, just a bit thrown off at first by the vibrancy of the deadlands.
Also WTF is happening to your avatar, Droite?? Did you hunt down the world’s largest bunny and are you strangling it?
It turns out that Gnomes aren’t the only ones plagued with “Big Weapon” on character pic syndrome anymore. Picked up a cool looking staff in Ardenweald yesterday, and now apparently I am that staff now. No goblin, only staff.
I can’t say I see that at all. Tyrande is not the Queen of some court, the Sentinels are not the Wild Hunt, etc… On one hand you’ve got a society of immortal beings actively striving to nurture Wild Gods, and on the other hand you’ve got a society of once-immortal people striving to protect their sacred forests.
Saying that the Night Fae/Ardenweald feels like Night Elf stuff is like saying Suramar feels like Blood Elf stuff. There’s synergy in terms of aesthetics, and a surface appearance that a race may fit in there, but we’re still looking at two distinct and different cultures and stories. Suramar didn’t advance Blood Elf lore, nor does Ardenweald do the same for Night Elves.
Even the stuff about the Night Warriors in Ardenweald doesn’t really do much since Elune has worshipers across the entire cosmos, not just the Night Elves. You could argue what connection Night Elves have to Ardenweald is about the same as Blood Elves had to Suramar; a certain ease of relations into friendship due to common interests.
Pot… heres Kettle. You ignore the whole post and project what you think it is.
She didn’t even mention the trees… yet here you are plugging your ears to every reason why it’s a zone built for night elf fans. Seems like you don’t want to listen to logical discussion and already have your mind made up.
I mean, by that logic, anything to do with Khadgar is also Alliance stuff, because his pre-WoW history is entirely on the side of one version of the Alliance, even though he’s been entirely neutral since being re-introduced in TBC. So all of WoD legendary stuff? All Alliance, sorry. And in the case of Ysera it’s even weirder to do so because of her overall importance to Azeroth in its entirety. If we start ignoring a character’s importance in the lore’s cosmology simply because they’re somewhat more aligned with a given race, then literally every single story in the game unless it’s something completely divorced from the core of the setting is partisan based on faction, which is… dumb.
I feel as though night elves have become a hair trigger focal point on this forum wherein anything to do with them immediately garners some sort of skewed reaction in either direction, and even a character somewhat associated with them automatically becomes ‘night elf lore’. And while I understand why, I feel that it’s becoming a broken record at this point… and probably will be, in either direction, for the next while, sadly.
Also can we stop with ‘blue posters’ ‘red posters’ please? I’ve played both sides since Vanilla, I post on this character because I like the name.
I mean, it gets accused of being Alliance stuff all the time, so…
I agree, ignoring a character’s history and their importance is very dumb.
I don’t know why you anti-Ysera guys keep ignoring hers, especially when you acknowledge how dumb it is.
For real tho!! It really does!! Y’all getting all kind of mad, intentionally and deliberately ignoring a character’s history, all because I feel Ardenweald gives off a certain kind of vibe. It’s like the very idea of a Horde poster saying the words “night” and “elf” together sends you all into a hostility spiral, full of delusions and accusations that saying “hey this kinda feels a bit n-ght e-f-ish” is akin to saying “this zone belongs to the race-not-to-be-named, this is unfair, Alliance favoritism, also I’m crying real tears now and Blizz plz love Horde more now plz!!!”
I’m happy someone else here can see the insanity of it all.
He might be part of a later plot. For Zul’jin to cease to be Wrathful and go to the Other Side, he needs to let go of his anger and wrath in death; he tried his hardest to get the land back, and he was killed. He could be the new Loa of Vengeance now that we killed Dambala in the Shadowlands.
Likewise for Kael’thas to admit to his arrogance, he needs to accept the Trolls deserve land being returned.
Especially now with the meta-implications (via the customization options) that members of the the Gurubashi, possibly Amani, and Farraki have all joined the Horde at least in part. Eastern Quel’thalas and Ghostlands can be returned to the Amani, and Ghostlands can be given to the dead elves (Forsaken High, Blood, and Night Elf)
Speculation though, but it would make sense for him to be there, have a unique model, and gossip text if he was for a later plot.
Yeah they use Orc models for souls in Revendreth so I have no idea.
I hope there will be a plot involving, or around Zul’jin. I hope he never let’s go. If he can let go, why loa of vengeance? Wasn’t it confirmed that Dambala survives? I’m not sure.
A plot to bring all Troll in to the Horde (and giving some stability to the Amani) would be cool. That’s for sure. I would like something like that.
I hope so. But what’s unique on his model? It’s his old model and the same like the statues in BfA. It’s his BC model.
Because vengeance is up his alley; alternatively maybe we rescue him like Death Knights rescued Koltira from UC in Legion.
Loksey was given a General Soul model for the leveling storyline, so we can safely say he was just there for flavor reference, and we won’t see him ever again.
Zul’jin was given his own model.
So update: apparently there’s a switch next to the carpet everyone missed, you don’t need the Venthyr teleport nor the Warlock demonic gateway to enter lmaooooo
I hesitate to call this troll content because of how tiny it is, but for transparency’s sake:
I finally went and finished up an Ardenweald side quest about silk that I put off, and there’s a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it moment where the final quest in the chain asks you to go save a giant silk moth thingie. The text blurb in the side window says that the quest boss is a servant of Mueh’zala, and he mentions that he serves the true god of death as he dies, but that’s it. The quests are entirely focused on the silk and there’s no follow up for it.
Honestly I thought it was simply more drust stuff mucking about in the area until I got to that final quest, since all of the quest enemies shapeshift into an animal form when you fight them.
Ysera doesn’t mean “night elf lore”, that is a stupid point. There is no night elf content in the zone aside from seeing an outline of “dear friend” and “student” in Ysera’s nightmare section, and the mention of Teldrassil burning during the play that was just about the lead up to the shadowlands, because the horde burning teldrassil started the 4th war. There wasn’t even any night elf story in it at all in the zone so far, also Bwomsamdi got a whole dungeon.