Why would they, they didn’t know, and why would they care, the nobles signed the contract the nobles gotta pony up
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If my boss said “sorry you’re not getting paid, i was one drugs” i’d kill him too
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Well now everyone knows and the reasonable defias have now decided to accept the kingdom’s restitution and rejoined Stormwind society. To the point most of those left in the defias org turn out to be the worse of the worse.
Problem solved. Anduin proves to be a great king and for the most part Varian remains a hero of Stormwind.
That also works. I just find it very suspicious that one of the biggest rivals of a black dragon got killed by a small rock that just happened to hit her in such a way as to be deadly.
Yes, it was. I have no idea what the logic was behind taking his vows in Stormwind; I don’t remember any specific reason being given in the novel. If I wanted to speculate a possible reason that would make sense for the lore, I believe Stormwind was newly rebuilt, and the induction ceremony for the crown prince of Lordaeron would have been a good excuse to show off the cathedral. The novel presents it as a massive international event, with Thoras Trollbane, Genn Greymane, the Wrynns, and the Proudmoores in attendance, in addition to the entire Menethil family and all the various paladin bigwigs.
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Agreed. So yeah, it was Onyxia all along.
I would also add she was one of the most prominent voices that wanted them to get paid. Having her killed does nothing for the Stonemason’s cause.
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This thread has become Zerde defending Stormwind, which could go on for ever. Good for him.
However, I see little good in such fan fiction being canon, and the motives seem mostly about spite.
The Alliance is evil - the Alliance of Arthas and Anduin. I do not need some intrigue about Anduin’s parentage.
Whether Anduin be a child of Stormwind or Arthas - he be some nepo baby brat child that the Horde plays the Jabrony for.
To you. But Blizzard seems adamant that for the most part it is a force for good.
Like every leader of both factions are a napo baby. That is how they got the position, being born of nobility/being part of the high class.
No none of the horde are hereditary monarchies, nepo babies are the alliances bit
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Baine is the son of a chieftain, Thrall was the son of a chief of the Frostwolves. Calia is the daughter of Lordaeron king. Mayla also daughter of a chieftain, Thalyssra, a born nobility. Talanji is a queen. The only one elected was Gelbin.
A chiefdom is not a hereditary monarchy, calia is on a council not a queen, thalyssra is part of a magocracy where the most able mage rules, talanji true, i forgot about her
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Calia is not a queen thank the gods
Sure. Which is why the fan fiction attempting to lash Anduin to Lordaeron is pathetic. It doesn’t move the lore in a meaningful way - he remains a nepo baby brat child either way - it just mucks up Human lore.
As the lore is - Anduin is a child of Stormwind’s Royalty and Nobility.
It just seems a degradation of the lore to throw Arthas in places he never belonged.
I have never been one of those who hates the lore. Arthas was a loud brat and his conclusion was better than he deserved.
I don’t see the urge to keep that Fart Brat living rent free in other people’s minds as some other dudes kid.
A chiefdom is still a heriditary postion hence nepo baby.
And we have a council as well right now for dwarves.
And Jaina is part of a house of nobles ruling Kul Tiras. So the Alliance is no more nepo baby land then the Horde.
On this we can agree. I have no interest in seeing Anduin become the son of Arthas or whatever.
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Chiefdoms are not hereditary positions inherently; Grommash Hellscream was not the child of the Warsong Chieftain he succeeded.
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Even under that assumption the Bloodhoof and Highmountain tribes’ chieftain position have been heriditary positions. And both Baine/Mayla would not have their position if not for their lineage, hence nepo babies.
You were wrong. You have no proof it is outdated, it is outright wrong.
And it is really sad you can’t admit it. If it was outdated, there’d be a source.
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Nope not wrong at all. And if I was, blame whoever wrote the wiki article. Look, Warcraft lore, even the defias one, was not as well thought out/complete as we had now. Hell, the lore was so vague this was the older entries for the defias:
After restoring the city to its former glory, the workers gathered outside Stormwind Keep to collect payment for their services. This came as a surprise to the nobility of the city, who had assumed that the work was being done as a matter of civic pride. Whether they were unable or simply unwilling to proffer payment, they immediately ordered the workers exiled from the city.
I blame you for blinding trusting and the writer for writing wrong information, but that makes you wrong. You just refuse to take responsibility for your mistake. Which is weird because every single person is wrong many, many times in their life.
Until you prove a real source, you continue to be wrong. In the same way I can’t make claims without a source.
Like I said before, if I made a claim, wouldn’t you expect a source to consider it to be true? Or will you believe what I say without any backing?
None of that supports your incorrect claim.
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No, I am right, and I showed what I know. Regardless, Varian wasn’t at fault, nor anyone in the Alliance. All blamed should be place on Onyxia, end of discussion. Vancleef will always be the villain of this story, a tragic and relatable villain but still a villain, and Varian will simply be the person forced to deal with a conspiracy that no person should reasonable blame him for.
So if I made a claim without a source, would you consider me right?