Nah, your problem is that you’re playing Alliance.
The raiding and M+ scenes are BAD if you’re Alliance, but on Horde it’s exponentially better and you will have literally no difficulty getting into any sort of competent group at virtually any hour if you’re Horde.
Yeah, but then you have to play the horde. shudder I would rather be shot in the stomach with a hacky sack gun.
Yeah, and ninjaing is actually a problem now that cross-realm gameplay exists.
Before, you were developing a reputation for yourself, now you can do it and be totally forgotten, so they really do need a loot system bandaid to resolve it.
Yup.
Yup again. I fell behind hard this time due to not being a raider. Took me months to even be kinda geared, then had to push all my own keys, etc. Impossible to keep up with raiders early on.
That’s like saying clapping your hands is harder than snapping your fingers, with that statement. are you going to tell me mythic shriek is harder than tyrannical, bolstering, anything sanguine depths? Because if you are, you’re an idiot. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt.
It took the average player weeks and weeks to get anywhere near 210 end of dungeon loot this tier from keys. But those heroic raiders (a step above lfr) definitely were receiving 213 gear dropped. The only ones ahead of the curve, so to speak, in mythic+ gearing were raid and pvp geared filling in holes. The rest of us stated underleveled for months
I’m not sure how true this is. I see people in raids I recognize all the time. But I also play alliance.
I like the current system
I worked to achieve something through pugging mostly
Now my alts benefit from my hard work
GGWP Bliz
How does my alt gearing effect your gearing?
Didn’t they mitigate this by making everything personal loot?
But anyway, I think people believe that everything has to be exactly as they experienced it the first time. The problem is that we have distilled memories for anything we enjoyed in the past.
There are so many things from Wrath that I remember hating or being glad is gone when I really sit down to think about it, and nearly always it’s the players that I miss from back in the day. Yeah, I got chills doing Ulduar and Onyxia when I was brand new to the game and didn’t even have raid frames set up properly to heal. The guys I raided with kept saying I was doing a great job despite me absolutely not lol. But I grew better quickly and was a top performer in our 25 man ICC. Sure, those were great times.
But, the ninjaing thing still existed. Sure, people may have ruined a reputation for themselves, but also it meant raiding with other guilds was dicey, because they could come up with strange rules and prevent “trials” from getting gear. And so many other systems I enjoy today didn’t exist then.
Most people don’t have a strong grasp on the reality of what they went through when they were new to the game, and that’s evidenced by how many people really thought there’d be massive progression on Classic raids. That’s not to insult them; it’s just meant to illustrate that WoW has evolved and so have its players, and I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
There’s plenty of pugs, the OP is just being hyperbolic for effect.
A problem for resolution, and resolved by personal loot, now that cross-realm gameplay exists.
Or, not revertible without massive changes to the way the game basically works.
There’s many PuG group in there. It’s just hard to be desirable at higher keys. There’s tons of DPS and only few are needed.
So your issue as a non-KSM player is that you can’t get into the KSM groups?
Why not just play with other non-KSM players and push together instead of calling others elitists for not wanting to carry you?
We have long, long since shattered the faction barrier veil.
It makes 0 sense in this Era of wow to not just let anyone play with anyone.
We can team up in almost every cinematic but it suddenly becomes taboo inside the game? Pfffft.
There is a valor cap and upgrades only go so far. The value system is designed for targeted upgrades and is not supposed to gear you head to toe.
There are plenty of pugs still running. You have to remember that we are 6-7 months into season 1. That is a long time. Many players got burnt out or took a break until season 2 releases. If you can’t find a pug, nothing is stopping you from making your own groups.
Right now yes it’s dead? Most players who wanted KSM enough have already achieved it. Once I got KSM I barely run keys. I think it’s been like 3 weeks since I ran one. I tried running a key this weekend and there was barely any keys in the 16-17 range.
You should of been pushing for KSM much earlier in the patch cycle
m+ was a mistake
Err what?
Almost the entirety of my time on the game atm is M+, i get invited within minutes (not just on my Sham, on my Hunter and even my low gear Rdruid).
M+ is alive and well. Its virtually the only interesting thing to do atm.
Meh, I leveled multiple off-meta alts (enhance/demo) and was doing +14s within 1-2 weeks and getting 226 gear.
There’s tons of groups running and it doesn’t take long at all.
And doing +14-15 isn’t “leet” it’s actually pretty low skill. You’re probably just not very good at the game. Easier to have a bunch of rationalizations and ego defense mechanisms than press your interrupt key I guess.
Without mythic+, this game would not survive. It is the only thing bringing in new players and retaining them, or at least it was until this dumpster fire of a season.
Raid or die crowd dwindles by the day, even though every detail of the game is catered to them. The “og” players cannot be made happy no matter what, although they dont realize that’s the case.
New must replace the old or the game dies. You take away mythic+, and newer, younger players will not like what’s left. Other games do what’s left a lot better than wow does
Nah, I pugged KSM as an alliance. There maybe more Horde groups running Mythic Plus but there’s enough on Alliance side. The problem is the OP posts daily about his struggles in mythic plus but refuses to do the one thing we keep telling him to do that would make his life easier: RUN HIS OWN KEY!
Why should I do mythic + if the reward isn’t worth the time it takes?
No thanks