I had something weird happen while doing a TW dungeon for the 5 TW quest. We did Darkheart Thicket and took the bypass to miss the third boss. At the end the total of my TW runs was not increased because the boss list was missing one. Yet when I did it on another toon and the group again did the miss, it was added.
Does anyone know anything about this, or am I just loosing my small mind…??
“The bypass and missed the third boss”…? What do you mean exactly, there’s no bypass? Are folks glitching through the doorway that opens up when you kill the third boss for a faster run back or something like that?
DHT has always been a 4-boss dungeon with no boss being optional. So what are you talking about…?
You can avoid fighting Dressaron (the 3rd boss) by making a sharp right after Oakheart, fighting a couple of mobs and jumping down onto the pathway that leads to Xavius.
Yeah, Dresaron is optional. It’s not even really a skip, there are just two paths you can take after Oakheart.
There’s not supposed to be a path there except until after Dresaron is killed, and that’s just a shortcut if you died. So unless they changed DHT to being a three boss dungeon, that’s skipping out on a boss marked as essential.
Unless they changed it so Dresaron is now optional?
If he’s marked as optional then when you are in the dungeon you have as an objective to kill only three bosses. And this is a change from what it used to be, as Dresaron has always been required. So… check your objectives when you enter the dungeon in TW, I know I will be doing that whenever I see it.
…what? That’s just not true at all. The ‘skip’ path has trash mobs in it as well, the big difference is that it doesn’t lead to Dresaron and instead goes straight to Xavius. It’s been like that since the dungeon came out with Legion.
Back during Legion there was no skip path. Dresaron was a required boss and DHT was a 4 boss-dungeon. This is what has me confused because this is just a kinda weird change is all. But it is a change from Legion.
Edit: I looked it up and the only thing I can find is someone clearly skipping past the second boss where there should be a bramble gate in place. So I stand corrected, there is a skip to get to Xavius … it just also completely ignores the dungeon objectives meaning it won’t count as a finished dungeon, making it less of a “skip” in the traditional sense of the word and more akin to when people sequence break a dungeon (except in this case, apparently not going back to fix the sequence break to make the dungeon count for the objective markers either).
The problem is, it’s even right there on the map.
This totally looks like an optional path.
yes there was - we took it all the time
This isn’t a path that got hamfisted into the dungeon later on. It’s clearly part of the dungeon, signified by it being on the dungeon map, being populated with trash mobs, and looking like a natural part of the dungeon (it’s marked by torches, and it’s where the stone path leads). It was just never used all that often due both to player preferences at the time when Legion was current (we wanted loot from Dresaron), and because Dresaron is indeed required for M+ so the path that circumvents them is less necessary. But the point is that the path has always been there.
EDIT: It is a fair point though that Dresaron isn’t optional in the dungeon’s requirements. You can still beat up Xavius without killing him, but it seems like Xavius is all that matters for TW at least since when I was getting the weekly quest done my group skipped Dresaron as well and I still got credit at the end.
EDIT 2: For my own curiosity, I just went into the dungeon and confirmed that every boss is technically optional. Ran right past Glaidalis (this wouldn’t really be possible at-level), and there’s not even any need to activate/engage Oakheart. The route to the end of the dungeon is fully open from the start and requires no bosses be defeated.
When I go in there on my L70 herbalist druid, I sneak past the first boss easily. That allows me to farm the wandering flower mobs further in, then dreamwalk out and back in again after resetting.
You can go right after the tree boss, rather than left through the slime elementals.
i instantly leave any group that skips bosses. my toons need the gear.
While I’m generally not in favour of it, when you are working on running multiple alts through 5 x TW instances, if something can save a bit of time on a boss that is very unlikely to drop anything that’s all that useful, I see no problem with it, personally. Especially when you have limited playtime and the reward from the 5x is probably going to be far more valuable.
This seems silly, considering you’d get a 30 min deserted debuff, or at the very least still be on CD for joining another dungeon for whatever that time is… 10 min? The group would complete the dungeon faster than that, then you could just queue up again for a new dungeon (with a 10 min wait for dps). Your way is like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Most leveling groups skip that boss now. Somebody didn’t know. I don’t mind tanking him, but most players don’t know the mechanics, so it can be kind of a critstorm. In fact, on a stealthy you can skip every boss but the last one to complete a world quest.
So in theory, a rogue that can stealth the entire party could just… zerg stuff?
bro i got 10 other alts to gear up. just switch alt bypass timer.
Not sure about the cooldown on that. You could probably cloak players past bosses, but the trash along the way you’d have to kill. Now a party that was all stealthies, who knew how to sneak past mobs without pulling them, could do it.
I’d just as soon get the extra bosses for a chance at the mount, myself. I recall doing mythic dungeon week in a party of stealthies during Legion.
It is a path though, path that was blocked in lore by the 3rd boss, or so that’s how I understood it.