Skill > Gear

Keep pushing, it’s quite hilarious at this point… especially when several others have called you out on the same.

You honestly just look like a complete moron. I’m done arguing with idiotic children. Time to grill some aged steak…

Toodles!

Flagged for harrassment :slight_smile:

It’s ok to have different opinions but we don’t have to get toxic about it, enjoy your steak!

I hit 1400 in 187 gear got my gear to 207 BUT the problem is me fighting people constantly at 35-38k health that has stupid one shot abilities

I can see how that can be an issue, but that feels more like class balance over the design of the gear structure itself which was the argument I was tackling in my OP.

I would beg to differ… you see classes right now that are so broken they can kill you with a cheese mechanic. One person who’s 226 ilvl can definitely carry someone to 1800 depending on his class.

Why do you think people can literally pay for glad now? 2 good players playing with a meh and carrying the meh until he gets glad.

Also you say to fix the problem people have with gearing by doing rbgs and hitting 1400 but that doesn’t solve the problem. The problem is that all the best gear is locked behind high ratings, and to get that gear you have to fight people who already have the gear and are just as good as you. Now a REAL fix would be to not lock the conquest upgrades behind cr and just make it so everyone (in a pvp situation) can have their gear be 226 ilvl no matter their rating. Then your skill would get you to wherever you deserve. On this Druid I only have about 200 games played and 140 of those are from 0-1800 and 60 are from 1800-2.1k. Can you determine what was the variable (the gear btw). I would lose to terrible players at 1.5-7k who could press one button and hit 20k and die (since I’m a healer and a Druid at that typically my teammate is the one who dies), when now I have 220+ ilvl and I don’t lose to someone who doesn’t have skill.

You like to claim that skill means so much more than gear right now but that’s certainly not true, I’ll admit skill does matter though. The reason why I can climb from 0-1800 in 2’s without even stepping into rbgs is because I know how to play, but having to play against braindead players with 40k health who can hit like a truck against someone who’s 30k health is insane. Think about it, would you EVER lose to a team that had 30k health when you and your partner had 40k health? If you would, you don’t deserve the gear you have. 220+ ilvl people should NEVER lose to 200 ilvl people. The reason why you see so many 220+ ilvl people though is due to rbgs. I’ve seen so many 2.1k rbg players who are HARDSTUCK in 1500 because they are so bad, but their gear allows them to atleast be there.

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Your entire reply is contradictory, you claim:

Then go on to say:

The problem with your logic here is that you can’t on one hand say that RBG players are trash and hardstuck 1.5 while also saying skill is important as you can get through the ladder without doing RBGs lol

So which is, does Arena take skill to climb or is the gear or is somehow both true at the same time?

I’m not denying that you’re at a disadvantage having a lower iLevel in Arena, but it can 100% be overcome by skill and aside from direct boosters which are very low compared to geared RBG players, no one should have a problem climbing.

this guy is like the male version of bloom yall gotta stop feeding

Just no. Not this xpac. Not any recent xpac to be honest.