Siren Isle is a Big Miss

You are not happy that a MMORPG is using a live service model?

What

Now remember, the key aspects of a live service model are normal updates to keep gameplay engaging so people continue to play.

What exactly are you advocating for? “I wish WoW would be so boring with nothing to do more people would quit”

Any MMO that is not trying to be a “live service” will die.

I like it.
1 hour a week and done.

I’m advocating for an MMORPG. The difference being, a healthy thriving community engaged in the open world. A fully cohesive, flushed out environment for players to explore and engaging content released as expansions.

Live service are smaller in scale, usually hub based with instanced content for smaller player groups. Usually with battle passes or loot treadmills with micro expansions that add barely there content.

Retail is not massive or a roleplaying game anymore. It’s smaller in scale, relies on instanced content and it’s open world is an empty mess.

Retail is a live service model.

Hey, Brawler’s Guild was pretty massive and easily gave me weeks/month of entertainment.

Anyway, yeah, this patch is certainly ‘up there’, probably at least among the worst top 5 patches ever.

It’s a weird ring, and a grind accompanying it.

I’d argue that the meta-achievements added for older BfA content are more exciting than the new TWW stuff.

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Ony in 'nilla
Gruul and Mag in BC.
Two Sanctums and Malygos in WotLK (plus VoA plus remaster of Onyxia).
Tot4W in Cata (plus Baradin Hold).
Arguably Terrace in MoP, though that was 4 bosses, there was almost no trash, felt very much in a similar vein).

It wasn’t 'til Legion they really stopped doing them

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I think we got more World Bosses instead, but yeah, I agree.

Instances really set the mood, even if they were kinda short.

We also had Crucible of Storms in BfA, a 2-boss raid. That was really the last one.

WoW is a MMORPG.

That has nothing to do with “live service”

Yes it is.

WoW has relied on instanced content since day 1

as long as you have no clue what a “live service model” is…i guess.

BFA had one as well

Oh. Well if you want to define “2-3 boss raids” to include 1-boss raids, like you just did, then… I guess.

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I dont expect it to be a major patch. But as islands go, its not in the Top 3. Korthia was more varied and interesting than this.

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Sort of, but not really, since only one is up at a time. =-\

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Can I get an answer to this?

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Korthia was a major patch.

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I still haven’t forgiven Blizzard for scrapping Farahlon and the Shattrath Raid in WoD in exchange for that.

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Most likely you won’t lol.

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seems to be pretty packed right now for being so bad.

But twitter integration.

Yeah that ended up in a… place.

Sir, you are supposed to be spamming Mythic+.

Are you saying that because of its number or because of its content.

I am saying because it was objectively a major patch.

Korthia was 9.1

That is a major patch.

Siren Isle was 11.0.7. That is not a major patch.

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