Since people are talking about FFXIV

[Hwanwok-ysera (Hwanwok)]

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

First, this idea that FFXIV story is good is the BIGGEST hoax/lie in the entire internet. The story is horrible, it does not get any better, and it does not even make any sense. ARR (spoilers next, don’t read if you care) ends with the WoL who did everything for their friends literally leaving EVERYONE behind while running from 10 little guards (after defeating the biggest threat to humanity with easy).

I mean thats your subjective opinion.

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

Second, FFXIV sub/player numbers are the SECOND biggest hoax/lie in the entire internet. That game peaks with 80k players on Steam but these people want you to believe there are 40 million subs…Yeah, I know many old players don’t use steam, but I’m SURE many new players would prefer steam, and 80k players (including free players) to 40 million subs is just ridiculously to believe… Lets face these are obvious lies probably promoted by Square itself.

Please don’t bring steam charts into this when a game like FFXIV has its own standalone launcher and also on console, its not accurate man.

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

FFXIV and the only actual numbers we see shows this is pure BS…

Yeah because 2 other sources of player population is hidden behind the company while steam charts is public, you dont know the exact number of players playing the game in total across the board.

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

Look at FFXIV streams and videos, the numbers are ridiculously small everywhere… Youtube? Would believe it’s a dead game. Twitch?

Twitch viewers and or the size of the FFXIV YouTube scene don’t mean anything.

A game can have a lot of people playing it, but its presence on YouTube and or Twitch is small.

FFXIV is not a good stream game as a viewer to be honest, same logic could also be applied to WoW, I dont know about the youtube scene but I would expect it to be a bigger then the FFXIV Twitch scene.

[Truewarlord-proudmoore]

@Grufo-proudmoore

Do you think the WoL is an unstoppable force? Do you think the WoL is so godlike that they could just wipe out and fend off what was potentially an entire kingdom’s army?

False. First because the coup leader did not have full control of the entire army at all. Second because everyone was already fleeing in the sewer, with no opposing force ahead, just some guards pursuing the WoL and friends… That is precesely why WoL manage to flee with Alphinaud.

Your argument just got refuted, but I will congratulate you for the actual argumentation, unlike others around.

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

Waiting for your turn to go through the sewer and find yourself here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/forums/667

[Rigatoní-area-52]

Such as we’re on the topic of FF anyone excited for FFXVI? It looks really good, I want to play it really badly because well, I love dark RPGS. But I don’t know, I just ope the dialogue isn’t cringey and “edgy”

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

Lol why not reply to me directly instead of starting another thread:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/do-you-believe-this-is-coincidence/1526031

[Vicktoria-area-52 (Vicktoria)]

But cat girls

[Truewarlord-proudmoore]

@Furrfist-frostmourne

Lol why not reply to me directly

Sorry, I did not understand what you meant, to be honest. Can you clarify?

[Furrfist-frostmourne]

Me looking at you:

[Nobully-blackrock (Nobully)]

…at least take your spam where it belongs.

Games, Gaming and Hardware

[Vaeana-area-52 (Vaeana)]

I’m sorry the mental burden of having to remember your password has effected you so bad.

I hope some day you gain the mental fortitude to overcome the seemingly impossible objective.

[Guldanish-shadowstrike]

[Rigatoní-area-52]

I never forgot my password, but the login is very slow. I installed a different launcher. Wasn’t even referring to my password, but assume away. Sounds like you forgot your password so I’m sorry the mental burden you went through, must be rough.

[Grufo-proudmoore]

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

Your argument just got refuted, but I will congratulate you for the actual argumentation, unlike others around.

You refuted one part of my argument (haphazardly, mind you) and then ignored the rest of it, so you must be in the habit of projecting your own shortcomings onto other people if you’re unwilling to address the other points I raised.

[Darcian-lothar]

I think you just have poor taste.
You’re entitled to it, but the story is brilliant if you actually follow it.

[Sunbringer-frostmourne (Sunbringer)]

Agree. Horrible game, horrible story, horrible characters, horrible zones, horrible graphics and a gargantuan amount of cringe in every direction.

[Truewarlord-proudmoore]

@Darcian-lothar

I think you just have poor taste.

Well, you may “say” it but you can’t provide any kind of reasoning/argumentation for your statement. While every single one of my statements come with reasoning and argumentation (that you’re ignoring, by the way).

That says everything about your tastes and your arguing skills…

[Phatymcdaddy-malganis (Phatymcdaddy)]

@Aurîcom-uldaman

FFXIV player numbers are larger because they have added 2 new datacenters with 10 servers each and their queues were over 8000+ at launch of EW, so right there you’re absolutely just spreading lies. Also their revenue was highest ever with EW. No game publishes true subscribers numbers, so you can’t say either way without lying, also no one said 40 million.

That was back in 2021. The queues haven’t been an issue for almost a year and that was well before they added new data centers.

[Phatymcdaddy-malganis (Phatymcdaddy)]

@Truewarlord-proudmoore

Second, FFXIV sub/player numbers are the SECOND biggest hoax/lie in the entire internet.

The hoax was ppl spread the 16 mill accounts created as actual sub numbers. When SE said it was all accounts created since launch to include trials. And of course ppl latched onto social media ppl saying it was active players. In wrath, wow passed 150 million accounts created but in those days we didn’t say that was active players

[Servechilled-pagle]

Stop promoting a fake rivalry . I play all mmos out there, and I find something good in all of them.

[Valorhand-stormrage]

people are busy actually playing the game. shocker