Since Blizz keeps caving to the Alliance

Sure, the more options the better… never understood the “NO” crowd when it comes to race and classes…. I say let every race be every class…

I’ll keep saying cow monks flipping/kicking, gnome/goblin warriors, LF draenie shadow priests, undead holy/disc priests all say hello that lore doesn’t matter…

Also,
Remove any +percent stat racial and just keep the flavor ones

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I agree that every class should be available to every race. I think they just need to differentiate the classes a bit to be more lore appropriate. Feels silly when every paladin still has angel wings for certain spell effects, for example.

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It’s hilarious how many Blood Elves are ignorant to the fact they were originally Alliance and were originally going to be Alliance playable.

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Yeah but they specifically didn’t do that to mix the factions up a little? To make it different from Lord of the Rings?

With warcraft 3 and the Kaelthas campaign?

No, they did it because of faction balance, when we had developers who cared about those things.

Faction balance is a lost cause because all of the competitive interest would have consolidated on team blue or team red with enough given time.

What? We were all literally just following Saurfang last expansion to the gates of Ogrimmar. Legion has us working with characters that eventually became Horde(Nightborne/Highmountain taurens) and in WoD Thrall took our killing blow of Garrosh!

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The saurfang narrative was “oopsie we messed up again because we’re dumb” which does not a compelling narrative make for heroic characters or people you like. Every expansion since MoP has been a celebration of alliance heroics.

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look at this dude

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Somehow you blame Alliance players for this, rather than Blizzard. We can make our requests, but Blizzard are the ones that implement them. Lest people forget, Alliance wanted High Elves that looked different from Blood Elves.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329725237438578688/497559136259801088/HighElfMockup.jpg

At this point they should just drop race/class restrictions altogether. Even stuff like Forsaken Paladins/Druids makes sense these days.

Blood Elves shouldn’t get Dark Ranger customizations, “to compensate.” They should get them because they make sense, and always did. Dark Ranger/San’layn options for Blood Elves are so ridiculously overdue, it’s like the High Elf wait all over again.

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Maybe if the Horde wasnt made up of so many “morally gray” characters they wouldnt keep getting villain batted. In any case, at this point we have probably purged every last major antagonistic force in the Horde at this point.

Also, pretty sure both Mayla/Thalysra, both Horde characters now, were present in fairly favorable lights.

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I see what you did there. :rofl:

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The cow is a joke, so he shall succumb to cow jokes from here on lol.

What about 2 expansions (WoD and Legion) of endless Daghar jokes or Little Rocky in BfA constantly going " Chumpyoun yae need ta be gathrin more azerite yae world be needn yae to heal her woonz"

So, Sylvanas was a genuinely interesting character per her WC3 writing. But the power scaling for every character got so ridiculous that the story stopped being focused on grounded, localized threats. And I think Sylvanas specifically got one of the worst depictions due to the genuine incompetence of Afraisabi who was fired for misconduct.

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What about salted caramel elves?

(giggle)

:cookie:

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If anything her warcraft 3 writing was proof she was always going to be a sore spot for everyone. She was effectively a retread of Kerrigan and suffice to say alot of people have less then positive things to say about how that whole thing ended for Kerrigan.

What made her different from Kerrigan initially was that she was a character who could have carved out an existence for the fallen of lordaeron and intervened in local politics. A character who isn’t nice, per say, but isn’t genuinely evil.

But then they just kept leaning into her initial tragedy that she never got to heal from (until shadowlands) rather than letting her grow into her new state of undeath with allies and confidence. I just really wish they handled her differently, because undead with complex motivations are always interesting to me.

Blood Elves left the alliance at the end of the 2nd war (WC2) and were they going to be alliance playable ?

Would like source on the later because the former can be found on sites like wowwikki.

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I know that the whole reason they made the night elves was that they wanted something different from tolkien elves for their original IP and did so successfully with them.

They made blood elves later because they wanted to do another unique spin on them.