It could just be that Elune, The Jailer, and The Arbiter are all closer to elder gods and true gods than most of the entities we’ve seen so far; this would explain their mastery of multiple fundamental forces. We know for certain that at least the Jailer is older than the titans, and The Arbiter as well likely.
Also Shandris would be a horrible leader for the Night Elves. Because everyone is going to complain when she marries the man, the myth, the legend… John J. Keeshan.
Is that what you want Night Elves? To have John J. Keeshan, greatest warrior of the alliance, breaker of chains, fighter of dragons, hero of Redridge, to be by your leaders side while she locks eyes with him, impressed by his skills and bizarre nature to never wear a shirt?
The fantasy I enjoy is not the fantasy you enjoy.
I like a brutal warrior society of Amazonian women.
I also like the Savage races on the Horde.
We don’t have to agree on what we enjoy.
Abso-positive-alutely
John J. Keeshan is definitely marrying Kelsey pls.
Nah… John J. was nervous around Shandris. This man was the hero of Redridge, I was there. I watched with my own eyes as he stood in front of a level 29 elite dragon and didn’t get scared.
Shandris assured him he was a hero. She also never told him to put on a shirt. I’m pretty sure we’re going to their wedding at the end of Shadowlands. I mean… I doubt Shandris can even think straight with the amount of human potential John J. Keeshan has.
So much human potential he gets two girls. Alas seems the only human without potential is Khadgar, he can’t even get a human girl!
Me thinks Ladgar is of a…different persuasion.
I much prefer Shandris to Tyrande. Honestly, after the barf-fest of her and Malfurion’s dialog in Legion, Shandris is a huge win. I loved her dialog in the war campaign, especially the “My plan? Find Sunwatcher and fill him with arrows,” bit. That’s the sort of thing I play a night elf for. My major concern for shadowlands is that the devs are once again going to make the 10000 year old, supposedly super-powerful night elf leaders make stupid mistakes like they did at the start of BfA. Seriously, the horde have had a base in Felwood for at least 15 years, how could you possibly forget that they might come from that direction. Sigh.
I think the main problem is that the devs just don’t care about the night elves, and so when bad things have to happen to part of the alliance they happen to the night elves more than the other alliance races. This is not a good idea for player retention given the large number of alliance players who main night elves, but we all know that there are also serious faction imbalance issues.
Tyrande annoyed me the whole expansion. I want her dead just as much people want Sylvanas dead. She doesn’t feel like she used to anymore. She doesn’t seem like a good person (her home and people being attacked and mostly destroyed) but she almost feels more bent on destruction than Sylvanas? Idk.
Wow a dh that likes Maeiv.
She hated you guys. I wonder if she still does.
Eh, she gets over it pretty quick to be honest. Just murders a few people here and there and eventually is cool with you. Just ask the Highborne.
She does, and she should.
I embody everything she hates.
Personally I’ve never liked tyrande, even in wc3. However, it’s sad to see that most of the war3 cast and original wow leaders are gone or retired.
Personally I perferred when the leaders had a less direct role in the story and that other characters were the ones involved on the frontlines. Some change and evolution is to be expected but I feel like blizz thinks that the only way to have an “exciting” twist is for someone to die and/or have their character go crazy.
I am happy tyrande is getting some of her feistiness back (even if the whole “night warrior” thing seemed a little over-the-top melodrama). I’m sick of all the leaders basically being the same character as far as personality and morals go. Both factions need some more grit to them IMO.
That’d be my main fear if shandris were to become leader. She’d just be morphed into another anduin clone. I’m still angry about how Moira went from this awesome, sinister shake up to the alliance roster when she takes over IF to a very generic, peace/light loving character .
Same thing Horde side. The leaders are all so bland. Baine, Thrall, and Voss always sound so depressed. Everybody always agrees on everything and nobody has any unique goals or plans or anything. I’m hold out a little hope that Talanji will still be out for blood because of her father’s death, but I’m not gonna hold my breath on that.
I don’t need characters to be evil or go crazy like sylvanas or garrosh, but at the very least they spiced things up. Despite him being comedic relief, that’s one thing I liked about Gallywix. He wasn’t outright evil, but he definitely wasn’t working on the same wavelength as all the other characters.
Bwonsamdi’s character is so refreshing in part because he’s so unique. He’s not some power hungry villain, but he’s not this somber, altruistic hero either.
I’m stop rambling now, but to bring my tangent back to the OP’s topic, Shandris could be cool, but as of right now i dont think her character is fleshed out enough to really add anything worthwhile, especially at the loss of tyrande’s new found thirst for Horde blood. If she can have some more time to develop into a more unique character I think that would be better than just putting her for the sake of replacing tyrande.
Oh god, and people think Tyrande is currently insane. I’m betting Maiev is still and will always be insane. This is some elaborate ruse where she acts like she is cool now but she is secretly plotting to usurp the Night Elf empire and assassinate Anduin Wrynn. No I will not accept the fact that she was basically poorly retconned to basically be so mellow and tame. I still have hope she can be a villain
For me is funny I’ve hated Tyrande in most of Warcraft, except for Legion where I actually liked her and I think people misinterpret her a lot there. But yeah, she was terrible in WC3, killing the wardens was absurdly stupid.
Blizz overuses the going crazy plot so much and worst part is, is not even character development, 90% of the time is “evil energy making them evil”
That’s exactly what I’m counting on. I want a leader that does something interesting, a leader that instigates.
I want the Alliance to be interesting, and not just follow the horde around constantly.
And the more they do it, the worse they get at it. They try and rush it Arthas, for example, was very well done. But he had an entire campaign focused on him to build up to it. You see him making tough choices (like the culling or burning the ships) and you see the digression righteous fury to vengeful hate. And then he has another whole campaign to essentially address the aftermath.
So many others though are rushed and it feels bad. Garrosh’s felt super hypocritical since he despised demon anything but if it’s purple instead of green it’s okay.
Jaina’s flip, while it made sense, felt way to jarring IMO cause it was just to big a switch. there was no storytelling to it so it felt forced.
With Sylvanas (yes she’s never been “good” but before she was more scheming and bfa made her a straight up super villain) there was way too much that happened offscreen. Having events happen that the main character doesn’t know about can work well in a show or book, but in a game, where the reader is also the main character, it doesn’t work nearly as well.
and then of course the backstory for have the villains are “I was good and noble but then i stepped in something green/purple… now im evil”. Many side-characters have been lost this way as well.
Blizzard needs to do something crazy and outrageous:
Merge the Alliance and Horde together to let us play with each other. It’s time for peace and friendship.
Then, create a second and third faction for Sylvanas Loyalists and Tyrande Loyalists who are not ready to stop killing.
The Army of the Mask and The Army of the Moon.
Honestly… they had a lot of potential with how they set Tyrande up going into the game… but the way they wrote her throughout the evolution of WoW has been… pathetic.
They just need to let her character come to an end and let someone else become the leader of the NE’s because she has abandoned her people and her responsibilities way too many times in favor of chasing after her ‘Malfurion!’ to have any credibility left.
I mean, she literally abandoned the battlefield on the Darkshore while there was still active resistance and on-going fighting in order to save Malfurion and left Teldrassil to its fate.
It’s pretty clear: you’re wrong