So then why isn’t SV casting frost spells to slow enemies, or summoning demons, or dual wielding 2H axes, or healing allies with holy spells, or transforming into a bear?
And now that bows, crossbows and guns exist, there is no reason to hunt with a spear. Why would they put away their gun and instead opt to stab their prey with a spear up close where they could get killed?
That is quite literally what you did.
I didn’t just arbitrarily think you conflated the two. You’ve equated being versatile to being a jack of all trades multiple times.
Because it is both versatile and a jack of all trade?
Look, you’re not bringing anything good here… so unless you wish to be on topic… ill just ignore the useless replies.
Removing the useless replies as well, stay on topic.
Surv is not a jack of all trades
No, it’s not. If it was a jack of all trades why isn’t it using the plethora of spells, abilities, attacks, etc. that every other class in the game uses? A jack of all trades would be using magic spells too, like fireballs and shadow bolts, not just melee attacks.
Have you at least played Survival ? For more than 5mins ? Not talking back then in legion, today’s SV in BFA.
Interesting that you guys are going back and forth over whether SV is versatile or a jack-of-trade.
I’ve always seen it as a trap/CC specialist spec…
It was still the case in Legion I’d say with that one talent we had. ( Now gone sadly), it was the most used one too I think, unsure.
Waylay? Or were you talking about something else?
Id have to search for the name, it was improving all traps adding an additional thing to it after X time.
A melee dps with a few ranged abilities a jack of all trades does not make, otherwise you could argue rogues are jacks of all trades. Is Surv versatile, in that they are capable of a number of different things, yes, but again, that doesn’t make them a jack of all trades. There is 1 class and 1 class only in wow that can really make an argument for being a jack of all trades and that’s druid.
You are avoiding the question sir.
An irrelevant question to the topic at hand.
Thank you, that will be all your honor.
Case closed.
@Watermist Found it ! Was actually 2 talent: Improved Traps and Expert Trapper. We even had explosive trap in there for dmg. Now just there for the knockback in pvp.
If anything, thatd be something I’d love to see back in Legion… but thats for another thread!
Thank you, I accept your surrender.
Id say survival is more of cluster mess than jack of all trade. Druid is jack of all, that they can tank heal dps both melee and ranged melee.
SV is doing a good job at being a master of nothing, including have a consistent theme that makes sense.
It’s skills are all over the place. It throws a bomb in melee and shoots poison because that’s what old SV was, it copied and pasted BM skills because of rexxar, then finally they added raptor strike because they remembered it was supposed to be melee.
The best thing they could do is drop all the BM skills, turn the bomb and crossbow into bow animations and then make kill command another melee attack. Then it would atleast somewhat resemble a hunter. Or just add melee options to BM if rexxar is their actual goal. But saying it has anything close to a stronger theme than RSV atm is a lie.
Yeah and Rexxar wasnt even a survival hunter he was classified as beastmaster up till legion where they changed his story to be a survival hunter.
You guessed incorrectly. I never said I couldn’t tell the difference between specs. I said the differences in this case seem like they have a purpose. I concede that other people have different opinions.
Survival started as a spec that focused on traps and melee (Lacerate was the final talent), then went through several iterations and changed to the Explosive Shot spec (and some trap focus) and now it’s back to a melee spec. I get that not everyone likes the current version, but it’s weird to act like the change was out of the blue.
Hunters all had melee abilities since Vanilla until one day they didn’t, and now they do again (albeit in one spec). Again, it’s totally fine to say you don’t like it. But it’s disingenuous to act like it was completely arbitrary for Blizzard to iterate on a melee design for hunters.